As no one really knows thw answer they can only give opinions on the subject so here is my opinion.
Em...... Now I have to think of an opinion.
OK then to me evertything is mind. There is only one mind and it manifests itself through our individual conciousness which is of course
individual only from an every day material standpoint.
Every action thought and deed is the one mind moving in a fantastic Ballet.
The movement of my hand on this keyboard is no less astounding and miraculous than the movement of all of the stars in all of the galaxies.
To see what I am I see what I have created all around me and all around me is a mirror of myself and from that I will learn and create something else but again this is only the movement of the one mind.
Our opinions come from language and the ides of others in the main. A true opinion can only be gained from the inner bigger self. But then opinions cease to have any relevnce so don't waste to much time on them but rather see what effect your opinions have on your emotions.
Emotions are without language and threrfore they are a pure reflection of your inner being.
however.......you said 'Emotions are without language and threrfore they are a pure reflection of your inner being.'
now i thought that 'the one' didnt have any feelings/emotions?
it just watches.......
We are the one and we have emotions
some say that we should control our emotions and then our true selves will be revealed.........so that doesnt fit in with what u wrote.
Who are the some? I think thatthe term true self is a bit missleading. Every part of our selves is the true self.
so where do our emotions come from?
Funny thing that. It seems to me that the emotions hit the Chakras first and foremoset.ie solar plex base heart. Could it be that the feeling of emotion is the physical body picking up the feelings of something on a different level. If you like a hidden part of ourselves that we do not recognise because without language we have no point of reference.
In other words a wordless but real sort of a mind that occupies the entire physical body.
I would like to see what a scientist would say about the corelation between mind and emotion. ie which reacts first. _________________ Please visit our main site
Every morning when you wake up, you create the world,
with thoughts, which among others, you call memory.
Maybe it helps if you look at what you always think you are, as a prism.
The light of awakeness and dreams is split by that prism,
and yellow can enjoy red and vice versa.
But it always remains light that enjoys light.
_________________ Remember words spoken complaining may blight every effort and plan,
A kind word would help in attaining,
So say a kind word when you can.
And what if you remove the illusions with which you have made your self
Who are you then?
Once again I obviously need to explain what I mean for Hobbs, poor old chap.
We are all illusion. Every one of us.
We are the things we have built up around us. Our thoughts, opinions, personality, character, morals are all based upon the illusions we hold to be true.
It's all smoke and mirrors. Take those away and we'll all be very dull people indeed.
And what if you remove the illusions with which you have made your self
Who are you then?
Once again I obviously need to explain what I mean for Hobbs, poor old chap.
We are all illusion. Every one of us.
We are the things we have built up around us. Our thoughts, opinions, personality, character, morals are all based upon the illusions we hold to be true.
It's all smoke and mirrors. Take those away and we'll all be very dull people indeed.
I couldn't agree less
Take away the illusion and what lies beneath is amazing.
This year I discovered that we are exactly that. All mind.
I have gone through physical and emotional changes this year that most people never experience. The way I look at the world, and more importantly- the way I look at myself have undergone monumental changes.
I've discovered that everything about us is controlled and originates from the mind.
I have lived in a box for the best part of 15 years by my own choosing, and now I have decided that is going to change.
But it was only my mind that stopped me getting out of that box, it really has nothing to do with my physical shape.
Also, I still 'feel' like a fat person, even though other people, my clothes and my reflection tell me otherwise.
My mind is still the mind of a fat person, and until that 'catches up' I will always see myself as a fat person - no matter how my body looks.
The mind is everything. It's who were are and who we can be.
Without it there is nothing. Absolutely nothing.
That's right Raymond. I think I may have pointed that out a long time ago.
OK can you think without words.
If I THINK, then it is in words and images. If I visualise a tree I have a name for the object, it is a tree and that of course is a word learned from others.
So remove the words and what is left?
What you say makes sense of course but it is naturally all words concepts and judgements. As the thread askes who am I, then you are surely not words concepts and judgements
Are words judgements and concepts your mind or of your mind? _________________ Please visit our main site
This question is an old Koan and designed to make you remove all of the clutter from your mind, and stop the mind.
It apparently leads to enlightenment in some people.
A bit like the sound of one hand clapping.
It is of course a meditation and one that should be used to the exclusion of all else while you work with it.
I have never had the patience as you really need to live it day and night.
Raymond many Shamans have learned their truth through suffering and strife.
I have to say that you are following this old and established path to your truth.
It seems that life comes along and drags us kicking and screaming into the class room even if we try to resist and even if there couldn't possibly be anything else to know. _________________ Please visit our main site
I wouldn't say 'suffering and strife' in my case but certainly a very difficult but wonderful way.
Since my surgery I have discovered that everything I thought I knew was inaccurate.
It's very difficult to explain.
I imagine that I feel similar to an amputee. Waking up and suddenly your body is different.
I'm not getting all pervy here but sometimes I touch my body and it doesn't feel like my body at all. I look in the mirror and I don't see myself. I see myself in a shop window - and it isn't me. It really is a very odd experience.
The point is, my mind - for whatever reason - refuses to catch up with the rest of my body. My body was operated on and my body changed, but nothing has changed in my mind.
I don't know if it will just 'follow suit' in time or if I need to work on it but it really is strange.
No matter how many times people say "You look great", "you've done so well" I always think "Oh they're just being nice".
My surgeon calls it 'body morphic disorder', it's what anorexics have when they think they're fat but in reality they're stick-thin.
That's great, it's got a name. So what do I do about it?
That's great, it's got a name. So what do I do about it?
What you do about it is up to you.
You can fight it or.........
You can accept it. go with the flow as to speak.
Touch your body and feel the change.
Look in mirrors and shop windows and enjoy the change your body is going through right now.
Take the compliments from other people and revel in them.
Start living Raymond.
Now is your time to get out there and join the world of the living.
Enjoy your life.
Enjoy the friends and family around you.
I wouldn't say 'suffering and strife' in my case but certainly a very difficult but wonderful way.
Since my surgery I have discovered that everything I thought I knew was inaccurate.
It's very difficult to explain.
I imagine that I feel similar to an amputee. Waking up and suddenly your body is different.
I'm not getting all pervy here but sometimes I touch my body and it doesn't feel like my body at all. I look in the mirror and I don't see myself. I see myself in a shop window - and it isn't me. It really is a very odd experience.
The point is, my mind - for whatever reason - refuses to catch up with the rest of my body. My body was operated on and my body changed, but nothing has changed in my mind.
I don't know if it will just 'follow suit' in time or if I need to work on it but it really is strange.
No matter how many times people say "You look great", "you've done so well" I always think "Oh they're just being nice".
My surgeon calls it 'body morphic disorder', it's what anorexics have when they think they're fat but in reality they're stick-thin.
That's great, it's got a name. So what do I do about it?
Now, here's a funny thing. My body often seems to know stuff before my brain does. My body reacts before my brain realises what is happenning.
When I first started working with energy type things, I used to have to listen to sensations, in my hands, in order for my mind or brain to feel t and interpret it.
I still do. I am a tactile person, I rarely visualise. I sense.
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