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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I donno...I didn't read every post, but...it reminds me of something I once read in a buddhist...thing.  Something about the soul shattering or splitting or something.  I don't know if that were the case, but it could be a likely explanation.  Ask her to, before she goes to bed, ask her spirit guides to return the scattered shards of her soul...if this is the case she'll have nightmares the first few nights as those pieces are being retrieved.  I've done this and so I know what to expect.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't think this could be a shadow person attack?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could be...but it seemed like it was their physical shadows on the ground that were split.  When I see a shadow, I don't see them like that I see them like one would any other person...although they have been known to cast their own shadow even if one cannot actually see IT.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll tell her to try the thing you suggested. Anything is worth a go at this stage.

I'd be interested to hear more of your 'soul shattering' experience.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is nothing more frustrating to a witch majician or whatever than feeling powerless to do something.
especially when you are trying to help.

The answers really do have to come from within this lady assuming that she is not suffering from a medical condition,and even that could be helped with the right mindset.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely right.

And that seems to be sorely lacking with her. She's accepted her fate.

You can lead a horse to water...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raymond for what it is worth she i think she will pull through- she needs to hit rock bottom for this to happen....  unfortunately...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowPhoenix wrote:
It could be...but it seemed like it was their physical shadows on the ground that were split.  When I see a shadow, I don't see them like that I see them like one would any other person...although they have been known to cast their own shadow even if one cannot actually see IT.


I don't know much about shadow people apart from my own odd experiences with them so I must ask how a shadow person casts a shadow even if you can't see it.

I may have misunderstood.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This really is a dilemma, Raymond, and even after having read all the way through I can't even begin to understand it - there are things here that I have no knowledge of.

The only thing I can think of is, has anyone done any searches on the house itself and the land it's built on?  Or done any digging to find out about any previous occupants?

The only thing I can think of that hasn't been mentioned already - and it's a long shot, I know - is that maybe somebody has tried to curse her, she's heard about it and it has played on her mind and so become a self-fulfulling prophesy.  I do know it is possible to think oneself ill, just as it's possible to think oneself well by positive mental attitude.  The mind has abilities and strengths that are still so little understood.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If somebody has cursed her then they're doing with a great deal of determination and it's obviously a on-going curse.

Having done curses myself I know just how much anger, spite and pure hatred is needed to successfully place one.

I can't imagine how anybody could muster so much negative feeling for such a long time.

My friend Eliza is in London next weekend and I've asked her to come round there with me. She exclusively works negative magick so if there is anything like a curse going on, hopefully she will recognise it. Also, she may have some secret weapon up her sleeve that we 'grey' Witches know nothing about.

As for the house, All we know is that an elderly couple lived in the house before her and I've spoken to one of the neighbours and as far as we can make out they didn't have any problems.
The row of houses were built in the 50's and the land itself was allotments before that.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about before that?  Going right back?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea. I suppose I could look into it but unless there's been problems with previous residents or other people in the street I really don't think it will turn up much.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

she will die in suffering and her continued suffering will go on for allowing such heathens to try and help her
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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she will die in suffering and her continued suffering will go on for allowing such heathens to try and help her


Oh so christian and spiritual of you cock. ooppppsssss sorry meant coc.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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she will die in suffering and her continued suffering will go on for allowing such heathens to try and help her


Know quite a bit for an internet loon, don't you?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awww swan Lady I will send healing vibrations your way.

Take no notice of the sadistic vengefull man who proffesses to be Christian.

His God will see he does not love his fellow kind, he know not kindness, we must forgive him his sin of ignorance.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheelanagig wrote:
Awww swan Lady I will send healing vibrations your way.

Take no notice of the sadistic vengefull man who proffesses to be Christian.

His God will see he does not love his fellow kind, he know not kindness, we must forgive him his sin of ignorance.



Forgive him father.

If he knows who his father is.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the woman's belief system? Does she beliee in witchcraft? Feng shui? Is she a Christian believer? One should act astarting from what she believes in I think. And perform the kind of ritual that can get faster to her unconscious mind. I wonder, Raymond, how that house looked like? I mean decorations? Was it a happy place, bright and so on or just a gloomy space to live in, colourless and lifeless? By changing that you can change the entire energy of it, and the way it reflects on her.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think she has any strong religious beliefs, none that she's ever mentioned anyway.

The house is fairly homely I suppose. She's a very career-minded business woman so there isn't much in the way of fluffy 'girly' bits around.

She's single, no kids and normally works about 11 hours a day so the house is just a place to sleep and get dressed.

She's definately not a home-bird.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

she sounds exhausted.. in general maybe a wake up call to move in an other direction in life...    perhaps she is having a  break down in order to reassess where she is going with her life
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really do appreciate everyone's comments about this case - I really do, but for me it's the "odd" aspects of it that attract me, namely the four shadows of her and the dog.
If it were soomething as simple as a health concern due to overwork or something liek that, firstly I think all the medicals she's had would have shown something by now and secondly it really doesn't explain the shadows.

I really would love to meet somebody who has seen this four shadows thing before or at least somebody who has heard of it.
I'm sure if I could find a satisfactory explaination to that I could work my way towards a solution to all of this.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.natural-passages.com/articles/four-chambered-heart.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Diana. I'll print that off and have a good read later.
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Not sure it has any meaning to the subject discussed but that's all google showed me. :D


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