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david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 7697 Location: Essex

I wonder from a spiritual point of view if the recent disclosures and all of the reverberations about MPs fiddling the books is a sign of greater change.

I like to think that just perhaps planet Earth is in the throes of change. Change for the better.

Perhaps, now that the ball is rolling it will gather momentum and lead to a more genuinely democratic society.

Perhaps I am a little too optimistic but I do live in hope.

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david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 7697 Location: Essex

Well the momentum seems to be building.

I have heard people on the radio speaking of reform and fairness.

Such a very British revolution don't you think.

We get taken into a war that tens of thousands are killed and mutilated in on a complete bunch of lies and say naughty old government but never mind eh.

However catch someone fiddling their expenses and wham all hell breaks loose.

Yes a very British revolution indeed.
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Hunter · Ghost Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 320 Location: France

Britons are not revolutionaries David, we tend to take everything in our stride until someone else points out that someone has done something. In other words your average brit is apathetic, and will only react when HIS back is against the wall !
As you and the great BD said the times they are a changing, but for the good ?
We'll see !
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david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 7697 Location: Essex

Apathy does rule in the good old UK.

That is perhaps the reason that we are in the difficulties that we are now.

Perhaps, just perhaps recent events will wake up our bored old population into realising that we need something better to pass on to our children.

I would suspect thought that this would come somewhere below buying a flat screen TV and having a Chinese takeaway on the list of priorities.
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evergreen · Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:00 am Post subject:

I'm not sure it is all apathy I think it is politeness that can make one just accept things because is it rude to disagree with "superiors" its changing though and rapidly
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david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 7697 Location: Essex

Funny thing is that i get a good vibe from all this skulduggery.

it takes huge events to bring about real and lasting change and this is a pretty big event.

cabinet ministers falling like nine pins and a ruderless leadership.

We will either flounder on the rocks or rise from all of this stronger and wiser.
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Hunter · Ghost Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 320 Location: France

Now that labour MPs want rid of the non entity who's ruining the country ..............
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evergreen · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:57 am Post subject:

it is not just in Britain but here too.. I'd take a stab and say it is a world wide thing.. change in in the air and that can't be anything but good
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david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 7697 Location: Essex

Yes I agree with you Raymond (well he's not been well)

I think that a good breakdown of any system means that we build another with the benefit of hind sight.

We shall see.
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evergreen · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:54 am Post subject:

fingers crossed David... Ithink its a good thing

afteral we may just realise that politician are people just like us and this whole shining the light on them is a great opportunity to have a darn good look at our selves and see how self righteous we can all really afford to be in the light of the public stoning arena.. now lets see how shall be casting the first stone ......... ?
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david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 7697 Location: Essex

Yup, I for one have fiddled a lot more than my expenses in the past.

We are all guilty of wrong doing but I guess when you are telling other people what to do it helps if you lead by example.

When I worked in the markets demonstrating the crowd expected me to be a bit of a rogue and I often think that to them it was all part of the fun.

Just imagine their surprise when they took whatever I was selling home and realised that it actually worked.

Well sometimes anyway.
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evergreen · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:25 am Post subject:

ok totally true David.. I meant we the public want to crucify someone for a choice they make in their personal life... like having an affair or something like that
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david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 7697 Location: Essex

Are we angry with them or angry at them for exposing our own human weaknesses?

They don't make things better or worse we do.

We allow others to tell us what is law and how we should live and why be it church government or the school bully.

Why?

We do it from sloth, it's easier that way and requires no effort.

Well do you know what.

I have a real sense that things are going to change big time.
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white wolf · Poltergeist Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 86 Location: wilts

many spiritual people are now commng to this conclusion ,things are afoot
for sure,storm clouds are brewing and people are and will be tested,and at the end maybe a real world change who can tell.

if there is not hope there can be nothing.
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evergreen · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:24 am Post subject:

I'm not angry at anyone... :) no real point in not being proactive to create the change you want anger can really only hold us in the one place ...
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Sia · Spirit Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 547 Location: Scotland

very steven king.... love it .... hi