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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:45 am    Post subject: It's all Energy Reply with quote

If everything is energy, then what is my shadow?



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still energy.

It is the other side of the coin
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the light not being able to pass through your physical matter.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the residual trace elements refracted around your physiology that leaves an optical illsuion of a shadow
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the shadow exists as a "lesser part" of ourselves, then the light that we come from would be the "greater part" of ourselves.

We it would seem are piggy in the middle.

With will and effort we can explore all three and perhaps grow to understand what we really are.

Those of you who have felt the light will know this and we strive for the light, but we are light, physical, and shadow so should we explore and seek all three in equal proportion?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.

Light and darkness are concept to give form to the physical. By exploring all three, we understand the form, and also that which forms our concept of light and dark.
It is often the same thing.

Just as pure potential and chaos are the same thing seen from different perspectives.

Our strengths are our weaknesses.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have explored the dark through weakness but to live in the light requires strength.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

david hobbs wrote:
I have explored the dark through weakness but to live in the light requires strength.


Have you been at the fortune cookies again Hobbs?

What requires 'strength' (if that's the right word) is to keep a perfect balance between the light and the dark at all times.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raymond wrote:
david hobbs wrote:
I have explored the dark through weakness but to live in the light requires strength.


Have you been at the fortune cookies again Hobbs?

What requires 'strength' (if that's the right word) is to keep a perfect balance between the light and the dark at all times.


It requires more than that because it is simply not possible.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to basics please.......what is dark and what is light?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The same thing from the same source but with all to human interpretation placed upon them.

Both are illusions because they are not the whole.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It requires more than that because it is simply not possible.


You think so?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Back to basics please.......what is dark and what is light?


Very good question and almost imposible to answer because once again the distinction between 'light' and 'dark' are pretty much up to the decision of the individual.

To put it very simply, some people are seen as 'good' people. others are seen as 'bad' people.
To my mind both are out of whack and neither will find true balance.

True balance comes from being an equal measure of both. Then things work.

It's why nature works so incredibly well because over time it has found it's balance. Both loving and cruel all at the same time.

I agree that it is difficult for an individual person to achieve such things but with a little thought it is possible to balance out your "bad" bits.

That's why I don't generally accept the woolly notion of Karma. In my experience, so called "bad Karma" only happens when a person is out of balance.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raymond wrote:
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It requires more than that because it is simply not possible.


You think so?


Perhaps for a brief time we stand between the worlds and as you know Raymond that is a place of power and stillness but 99.99999% of the time we do not.

So I understand what you mean but to most it is impossible, and to some it is fleeting, to the Avatars it is permanent.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I never said it was easy, but it certainly isn't impossible.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK agreed, and it is worth the effort to be in that place even for a tiny fraction of time.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're thinking too big again Hobbs.

I wasn't talking about Nirvana or perpetual states of bliss or anything like that. I was referring more to ordinary, everyday actions.

To me, people who come across as too 'positive' are just as out of balance as people who are too 'negative'.

Being too 'good' is just as wrong as being too 'bad'.

Next time you swat that fly for buzzing around and annoying the hell out of you, balance it out by leaving a few seeds out for the birds.
You took one thing from nature so pay her back by giving something back.

It's not rocket science.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I do feed the birds in my garden every day and the little buggers repay me by pooping on the washing.

Still whats a little poop when you can enjoy watching the antics of the critters in the garden.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some would say your "garden" belongs to nature, as do the birds.

Nature didn't make the great outdoors for you to hang your smalls out, she created it for the birds to fly in.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell me that the next time a passing bird shits on your head.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's never happened. And I have never been stung by a bee or bitten by a mozzie.

It's almost as if a greater force were on my side.


Imagine that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How the heck could they miss.

So you have never been pooped on by a bird.

I suppose that is the benefit of being a city witch.

The pigeons are to busy coughing to fly around pooping on people.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which brings us nicely back to balance.

When you live in balance amazing things happen. Understanding the laws of nature and living with and not against it's cycles and rhythms is the only way to a charmed life.

Never mind the "will of God", apart from being a load of crap most of it is man-made anyway.

Concern yourself more with learning the will of nature.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shall but first I must go and have my dinner.

Feel the force Raymond.....Feel the force.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

david hobbs wrote:
The same thing from the same source but with all to human interpretation placed upon them.

Both are illusions because they are not the whole.


Yep. so what was the question?

If its all down to interpretation, perspective, why not just see the darkness differently, and hoorah, no "nasty" implications?
No difficulty, no strength needed. Just a decision.


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