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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:00 am    Post subject: Michael Jackson Reply with quote

I wonder how long it will be before the conspiracy theorists start spreading stories about Michael Jackson's death was faked to escape his money worries.

I suppose he's already been shipped off to the remote little island where Elvis, Marylin and Princess Diana live.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just seen him at our local Tesco
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'll find I made a stunning observation on your facebook thingy  
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say, I started receiving jokes on my phone about it before I even knew he was dead.

It fascinates me how we cope with tradgedy with humour. I don't think any other country reacts in that way.

It's quite unique.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I for one, am glad he's gone ya know, weither it's to "The Island" or Death, the worlds a better place without him, one kiddy fiddler down, a few more hundred priests to go.....

As for the jokes, i heard a doosie tonight, PM if you'd like to hear it
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iam always amazed by the grief that people dispay at the death of someone who they never ever knew.

We just love to wallow don't we.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been people who have been friends for years, yet have now fallen out because one of them said MJ was a pervert, or said one of the jokes.

In one case, the guy repeated a joke he'd heard about Now Jacko's dead we'll never find out where Maddie was buried (admittedly one of the poorer ones) and a friend of his for years went doolally on him and when the first guy apologised via a private email he got a reply full of swear words and actually asking him for a fight!

People tend to tie in a lot of emotion to songs, and therefore the originators of the songs, when they remind us of events in our lives.  It's the only explanation I can think of, yet that doesn't explain Diana.

I am a major Queen fan, had every album of theirs (on vinyl) and know probably 90% of their songs by heart.  I was working in Spain when Freddie died and when it came on the news I went 'oh bloody hell, Freddy Mercury has died'....then went to work and had a normal day like any other.

Perhaps some people are just weird.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes we all have emotional contact with music and we can feel sad or happy listening to it.

We can feel miserable when a favourite pop star dies.

But why?

Answer, because we enjoy it.  If we didn,t enjoy being unhappy we woul stop wallowing in post pop star death misery.

WE NEVER NEW THEM.and so it is all an illusion and so our lives are governed by emotion based upon illusion.

What a joke.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said on Raymonds facebook status, all a musician is, is a businessperson.  Sometimes they use their music for some cause or other, but usually they use it to line their own pockets....and quite often the best bits about the music we like were done by producers unknown to us the general public (customers).

I like electricity, it keeps me and my family in a good standard of living.  I therefore spend a good deal of my income on electricity.  Much more than I ever spent on records.  So, if the chairman of the leccy board dies, should I then be consumed with grief?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm we are all very full of our opinions on this ha!

if someone is sad about this death fair enough, doesn't effect me
I do think its sad that the music man dies...  no matter who he is  cause I like music. how many of us met Dianna and yet we may have still felt sadness... I don't think there is much wrong with honouring the memory of someone... no matter who they are.

The jokes are here too not at all just for Englishmen Raymond... it appears we all have sick homour :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

david hobbs wrote:
Yes we all have emotional contact with music and we can feel sad or happy listening to it.

We can feel miserable when a favourite pop star dies.

But why?

Answer, because we enjoy it.  If we didn,t enjoy being unhappy we woul stop wallowing in post pop star death misery.

WE NEVER NEW THEM.and so it is all an illusion and so our lives are governed by emotion based upon illusion.

What a joke.

Cripes David.. Pop Star death misery wallow...LOL  IS  it the latest disease taking the world by storm.. I think not been here for a long long time the media just helps it spread rampant all the faster.....

Do we ever really know anyone??  People are free to love what they choose and good on them..  I absolutely love Shakespeare's plays would love to have met him .. feel sadness at the life of Van Gough admire his works immensely and feel like I have had some insight into his life via them....   SO ....who do I know...  my kids I suppose and yet they have a world I can never penetrate.....  I'm flat our getting to know me..

None of this means I am stupid for feeling sadness at the death of  someone whom I do not know...  its called compassion David    Big Grin  and I choose compassion    
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the death of Diana was a turning point in British history. For the first time ever we all showed our sadness and grief in a very public way.
Diana, herself, had little to do with it.
Like Jacko, Diana was slagged off constantly during her life but suddenly we were all in love with her when she died.
Apparently sales of Michael Jackson CD's have gone through the roof since his death - more than when he was alive.
It all ties in with those little shrines you see at the sides of roads when somebody is killed in a road accident.
Since Diana's death it has become acceptable to show grief openly.

I'm not sure if I think it's a good thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wanted dead stranger.

I need something to make me feel alive.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmmm,

Anyway, the point I was trying to make before was there's nothing like a good death to boost a celebrities' flagging career.

Dying was the best thing that could have happened to Jade Goody's career.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup.

Dead artists no matter what their art form are always worth more dead than alive.

I suppose that their work becomes a limited edition upon their death.

Oh and they always become nicer people too.

How often do we hear a medium say Oh I have a lovely lady here with me.

Yeah right!

There that should get a certain Tasmaniac typing  xxx
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's part of the reason why I've become so disillusioned with this whole 'mediumship' thing.

I went to a demonstration the other week, don't get me wrong, the medium was very 'watchable' and entertaining and dropped in a few funnies but everyone that came through was such "a nice old girl".

Everybody'd dead granny was "a sweet old thing".

Just once it would be so refreshing to have somebody come through who can only be described as a "right miserable old b*stard".
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raymond, when you've passed over, and come back to speak to one of us, i'm pretty sure thats the description we'll get
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you got a job yet?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked MJ,S music.
But thats all i lied about him.
I do believe he was a Kiddie fiddler.
If anyone wants to fall out with me for my beliefs. feel free.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swanlady wrote:
I liked MJ,S music.
But thats all i lied about him.
I do believe he was a Kiddie fiddler.
If anyone wants to fall out with me for my beliefs. feel free.


Pretty much echoes my own opinion on the subject.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's part of the reason why I've become so disillusioned with this whole 'mediumship' thing.

I went to a demonstration the other week, don't get me wrong, the medium was very 'watchable' and entertaining and dropped in a few funnies but everyone that came through was such "a nice old girl".

Everybody'd dead granny was "a sweet old thing".

Just once it would be so refreshing to have somebody come through who can only be described as a "right miserable old b*stard".



Well you just stated a cast iron case for you becoming a platform medium.

I know a good solicitor
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol


i feel sad about mj,so talented,but  he wasnt  level headed,was he tormented i think he was
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: MJ Reply with quote

MY VIEW IS I CANT BELIVE HOURS OF TV FOOTAGE SPENT ON SUCH A MAN,WHEN YOUNG GUYS ARE DYING IN BATTLE AND WHO GET NO HEROES WELCOME BACK ON OUR SHORES,THESE ARE THE TRUE LEGENDS AMONG MEN NOT POP STARS.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you 100% White Wolf.

One thing though,... press 'caps lock' would you?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: MJ Reply with quote

white wolf wrote:
MY VIEW IS I CANT BELIVE HOURS OF TV FOOTAGE SPENT ON SUCH A MAN,WHEN YOUNG GUYS ARE DYING IN BATTLE AND WHO GET NO HEROES WELCOME BACK ON OUR SHORES,THESE ARE THE TRUE LEGENDS AMONG MEN NOT POP STARS.

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I feel that in the main peoples grief is often guided by the media.

Dying in battle or dying from a drugs overdose matters not.  It is how the death is portrayed.

It makes me wonder just how many of our emotions are provoked to suit either government or commerce.



Sorry to be so cynical.



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