'' I do know that for some reason one of then is out of sequence. ''
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There is a thirteenth zodiac sign! David said the signs were out of sequence ,could it be that the 13th sign was in there? zodiac signs are actually zodiacal constellations which the sun passes through them during the course of the year. Even though the sun passed though Ophiuchus, it is not counted as a proper zodiac sign. Some theories were that the number 13 was considered as unlucky in the western world, thus it was not added in. Other official explanation was that Ophiuchus was not in the natural southerly path of the 12 major constellations thus it is awkward to promote it as part of natural universal precession.
When the Queen bestows the Order of the Garter on a commoner she wears a cloak with 169 (13 x 13) identical decorated silk garters on it, representing the ancient fact, to those who know, that the monarch is the titular head of the major thirteen covens of Logres, the head of the ancient faith, as well as the titular head of the Church of England. Logres is the name given to the spiritual Britain. You can feel Logres in Glastonbury and other sacred places in Britain. Thirteen is very important to the feminine side of occult work.
How does thirteen apply to the Zodiac of the magazines? Well, the Zodiac is defined in astronomy as the belt of starry constellations through which the Sun, Moon and planets seem to move. It is the starry background of their journeys. But the smallest number of constellations that are defined under that very ancient scheme is not 12. It is actually 13.
Ophiuchus the Serpent Bearer is and always has been the 13th constellation on the zodiac belt, but apparently nobody has ever initiated his sign as a member of the Zodiac, possibly because then there wouldn't have been a convenient one constellation for each of the twelve months of the solar calendar year.
The signs on that ring are Western zodiac signs
from l-r. Pisces Aries,Taurus
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I have no idea what these symbols refer too. I recognise some of them from the ring.
Sorry for laughing,have you ever heard the saying ''Its all Greek to me?''
These signs [on the ring] are from the Greek alphabet , which the signs of the zodiac were derived from.Astronomy uses the lower case Greek letters to name the brighter stars in a constellation. The star Alpha Centauri is sometimes written as a Centauri.
And I'm sorry also to contradict ,but Astronomy and Astrology are linked. The stars and planets all have certain signs,corresponding to the days ,months and years.
All the known ,named constellations are ruled by a planet ,and the zodiac [astrology] also has ruling planets,plus the sun and moon.
astro means star,or star shape. astrology is defined as the study of the motions and relative positions of the planets,sun and moon, while astronomy is the scientific study of the stars planets and universe as a whole. Astrology was once described as 'primitive astronomy'.
I have added a pic. of the greek alphabet.
This is such a complicated subject, and in the modern world scientists have disconnected the two as astronomy is regarded as bunkum; not so to the ancient civilisations,mostly the Egyptians,which I think you may have gathered ,I have a slight interest in.
here is a translation into English,perhaps you can work out by this what the ring symbols say?
http://www.ibiblio.org/koine/greek/lessons/alphabet.html _________________ Remember words spoken complaining may blight every effort and plan,
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These are the names of the stars in the constellation of Ursae Major
DUBHE (Alpha UMa)
MERAK (Beta UMa)
PHAD (Gamma UMa)
MEGREZ (Delta UMa)
ALIOTH (Epsilon UMa)
MIZAR (Zeta UMa)
ALKAID (Eta UMa)
Talitha (Iota UMa)
Tania Borealis (Lambda UMa)
Tania Australis (Mu UMa)
Alula Borealis (Nu UMa)
Alula Australis (Xi UMa)
Muscida (Omicron UMa)
Muscida (Pi 1 UMa)
Muscida (Pi 2 UMa)
ALCOR (80 UMa)
There is one sign on the ring that I do not recognise,it looks like a butterfly.
If the ring is very old,its possible that the signs were drawn differently to how we draw them today. Only a few years back,the letter 'S' in our alphabet looked like an 'f'
My theory is; this ring came from Atlantis!!!!
BTW; what picture of the windows has the zodiac signs? _________________ Remember words spoken complaining may blight every effort and plan,
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I have been asleep I think because I missed these really useful posts.
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I have been asleep I think because I missed these really useful posts.
Cheers Lilly.
Can't digest this at the moment because my attention is being demanded by a hungry cat and a noisy granddaughter
I have the opposite..my cat's old,is more vocal than ever and not so hungry anymore,and the grand-daughter is eating her mum out of house and home!
she's very tall,so the food has further to go! _________________ Remember words spoken complaining may blight every effort and plan,
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I just thought I'd throw in that there's a Zodiac in the landscape around Glastonbury, too. I know the Michael Line goes through Glastonbury and carries on at an angle that would surely take it through Essex -my geography's not that good without a map to hand. Would there be any connection, do you think?
I wish I could see this clearer,magnifying it distorts.
Funny I found this link another St. Michael's church,did St. Michael know something we didn't?
Have a look at this link;
http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk/essex/copford2.html
and here's a pic. of the Glastonbury zodiac
.Glastonbury is one of my fave places.
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I seem to remember reading somewhere that St Michael is synonymous with the Archangel Michael (is that right?) I don't know a lot about the Archangels because it's not a great interest of mine, but I do know there is one for each of the elements, and the one for Fire is Michael. I also know that the Michael line passes through St Michael's Mount, also its twin in France, Mont St Michel, and carries on in a straight line through Glastonbury. Has anyone got a map to trace its further journey?
I'm following this thread with great interest, even though I can't contribute much. I'm just hoping that something I've said might just give someone else a clue.
Actually, I'm just waiting for someone to come up with a link to Rosslyn Chapel!
I seem to remember reading somewhere that St Michael is synonymous with the Archangel Michael (is that right?) I don't know a lot about the Archangels because it's not a great interest of mine, but I do know there is one for each of the elements, and the one for Fire is Michael. I also know that the Michael line passes through St Michael's Mount, also its twin in France, Mont St Michel, and carries on in a straight line through Glastonbury. Has anyone got a map to trace its further journey?
I'm following this thread with great interest, even though I can't contribute much. I'm just hoping that something I've said might just give someone else a clue.
Actually, I'm just waiting for someone to come up with a link to Rosslyn Chapel!
I never knew all that about Michael! off I go on another quest now,I want to find out all about the angels and the elements....byeeee
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Sorry for laughing,have you ever heard the saying ''Its all Greek to me?''
