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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry to hear that, David.  But don't despair, we all get bogged down and stuck at various times in our lives, when everything seems to be stagnant and nothing is happening.  Sometimes this 'time out' is what we need, and the hardest thing is having the patience and stillness to wait for something new to come to us.  It's easy to feel powerless in this void, but try to see the empty space as an invitation for something new and important to come and fill it.  The Universe is in constant motion, so I'm sure this uncertainty is only temporary, David.  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you say "not his fault, but mine"? Where is the fault?
He has guided you, taught you, but he is not you, nor can he be. He has chosen his direction, it doesn't have to be yours.
Thats nobodys fault or failing.

So, what happening with the group?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be calling the other two people that are going to start it with me and see what their thoughts are on the matter.

The thing is I can only teach my way and from my experiences and I am supposed to be teaching his way.

He poo poo's everything that I do in the paranormal and see's it as a distraction from the teachings.

I enjoy what I do and have no intention of giving it up and so their is a conflict of interests.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it won't work in that format.

I wonder why he poo-poo's the paranormal stuff?

Isn't it another way of working, not right or wrong, just a different direction?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He claims to be teaching from a space of enlightenment.

It that space I suppose you see things differently.

I only know what I have seen from the space that I occupy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

david hobbs wrote:
I will be calling the other two people that are going to start it with me and see what their thoughts are on the matter.

The thing is I can only teach my way and from my experiences and I am supposed to be teaching his way.

He poo poo's everything that I do in the paranormal and see's it as a distraction from the teachings.

I enjoy what I do and have no intention of giving it up and so their is a conflict of interests.



with all due respect david why do you have to teach his way,may i ask please?
doesnt one learn and then put ones own  thoughts  towards teaching,as we are all individuals does one have to do things a set way?
shouldnt we be  flexible and take what sits  with us individually so as we can teach what we feel as surely  our "feelings" are what makes us so unique  and we can  adapt
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then i presume a teacher sets standards that one should maybee adhere to ,do they no something that we dont,do they set tests that  we need to go with ,maybee thats what you are supposed to find out
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by using your own inituitive is what a teacher is looking for .maybee thats the test ........
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is specific about the format of meetings and one problem is that I am a  spontaneous person.

I literally make it up as I go along.

I do so because I find that no two people or two situations are alike and if I impose will on a situation then I am restricting the possibilities within that situation and of course that person.

I don't like being restricted and never have.  It has been a problem over the years but it has also brought experiences into my life that most could only think untrue.

Good  bad and downright unbelievable.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

david hobbs wrote:
He claims to be teaching from a space of enlightenment.

It that space I suppose you see things differently.

I only know what I have seen from the space that I occupy


How wonderful to be so enlightened that anothers experiences can be so easily dismissed.  I would not know, I do not claim to be enlightened.

Would it be Ok to teach your perspective of his way, which is all you can do anyway, not being him?

Funny how so many of us learn so much from you, from learning to see things from our perspective of yours.

Has the group started? Can you ask them what they would like to learn?  Offer them multiple views in order for them to form their own. Is that not the main point of it?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's a good idea.

I will roll it past the others two and see what they think.

Funny thing is that every time I set a starting date something crops up to prevent it happening.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

david hobbs wrote:
He is specific about the format of meetings and one problem is that I am a  spontaneous person.

I literally make it up as I go along.

I do so because I find that no two people or two situations are alike and if I impose will on a situation then I am restricting the possibilities within that situation and of course that person.

I don't like being restricted and never have.  It has been a problem over the years but it has also brought experiences into my life that most could only think untrue.

Good  bad and downright unbelievable.


I don't teach that often, but when I do , I start with a structure. I have never yet got past the first tea break before that goes out of the window and we move into a freeflow that covers everything that everyone wants, in a way that suits everyone there,  and somehow by the end we have still done everything, but in a way that (hopefully) makes some sense. The experience becomes more than the "teaching", and so we learn in our own way, from our own experience... all of us....myself as a "teacher" included (if not more so).

Perhaps if each plays to their strengths, but with respect for each other, it will work well.

It seems right that this hasn't started until this is all bedded down.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meiah made the same point I was thinking of about enlightenment.  To claim to be enlightened, and then pour scorn on someone else, is not my idea of enlightenment!  I don't think I'd have lasted 12 minutes with this person, let alone 12 years!  I'm too feisty and stubborn, and I never take anyone's word for it without asking Why?  I'd be every teacher's worst nightmare, lol!  


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