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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to the thread which if you recall was posing the question why do those departed not return very often, if at all, to those who where the closest to them when they were alive.

Well the night before last I felt I had to go and visit my friend Tom.  It was his wife who died in the bath about six months ago aged 49.

He has continually been trying for contact with her, and asking why she hasn't made contact with him.  Well we had a long discussion on the matter and while we chatted his doorbell rang.  Ding Dong, just like the bell in the Avon adverts.  I said to Tom that the bell had rang and he didn't seem to have heard it.  He went to the door and there was not a sign of anyone at all.

I explained that I heard it as clear as a bell (sorry for the pun)  He pressed his bell push and it was not the Avon bell at all l but a muti toned bell that played a tune.

I must admit I was a bit puzzled and asked him if the bell had more than one ringing tone.  No he said.

Well perhaps I am loosing the plot but I would rather just think that Julie was having a little game with me.  hello Julie.  Thanks for popping in.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The obvious question here is, was she ever an Avon lady?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raymond wrote:
The obvious question here is, was she ever an Avon lady?


You know I knew her for twenty years and we were close friends but I really don't know.  I shall ask.

As john Cleese once said "specialist subject the bleeding obvious".

Why didn't I think of that?

If she was or not though it was an odd event.  I have heard things before that others do not and I just cannot understand why thy can't especially as my hearing is not great.  Perhaps my "hearing" is actually quite good but I pay little attention to it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is she ringing the bell?  Is it because she can't get in?  Who can open the door for her?

Open the bloody door!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I just asked Magi and apparently Julie was never an Avon lady. But she did use Avon products all of the time. and was friendly with the Avon lady who lived just down the road.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tenuous yes, but not a million miles away.

This is where a good teacher of mediumship would encourage you to follow your own instincts on this.

If you saw or smelled Avon products or one of their perfumes, would you think of her?

The 'ding-dong' sounded light and cheerful - was that her personality?

Spirit will never just lay it on a plate for you, you've got to work for it.

Never mind what other people say about 'making it fit', they probably still wouldn't be happy if a ghost popped up in front of them and said Hello.

It's the links that can be made that matter to YOU are the ones that count.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ring of the bell being different to the door bell says lots it couldn't be anyone ringing the bell .. it has to be another explanation maybe it was her... I prefer when they just walk up and say hello

a friend of mine's ceiling fan keeps coming on....  when she asked me about it I had this overwhelming need to talk about its relation to lavender and amethyst - to her that confirmed her friend who had passed five years back who was into these two things  and she has both things in her memory.. is that a stretch I don't know  all I did was give the message the rest is up to her
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raymond wrote:
Tenuous yes, but not a million miles away.

This is where a good teacher of mediumship would encourage you to follow your own instincts on this.

If you saw or smelled Avon products or one of their perfumes, would you think of her?

The 'ding-dong' sounded light and cheerful - was that her personality?

Spirit will never just lay it on a plate for you, you've got to work for it.

Never mind what other people say about 'making it fit', they probably still wouldn't be happy if a ghost popped up in front of them and said Hello.

It's the links that can be made that matter to YOU are the ones that count.


I suppose that is true from a mediums point of view and it is the way that many mediums work, but I would hate to go down the path of blind acceptance.

I think that I prefer events against piecing together things which to me are a bit tenuous and the mind may want to make them fit.

I have had enough events to realise that if Julie wanted to say hello then she could.  I wonder what if anything is next.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could you have heard the bell as a prompt for you to "open the door" so that your friend could have direct contact with his wife?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have to get over this idea of 'making things fit'.

Yes of coure it's always possible to make things fit but this event was enough to make you wonder.

I'll give you an example.

I am probably the only Man on the planet who hates seeing a toilet lid up. Putting the toilet lid down really is one of my 'things'.

Lately I have noticed my toilet lid at home being up as well as the seat.

I would never do this myself because like I said, I am always so aware of putting it down after I have used it and it's happenening far to frequently for it to be an oversight on my part.

So, assuming it's spirit trying to make contact, why would they do somethng I find so annoying?
And if they can lift toilet seats why not do something else?

When I have more time I will solve this one and find out what it is they are trying to say.

And yes, that will most probably involve making a few things fit.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well david maybee put a video camera in there


put a sign on the door so u remember video is on



and there  are ways you  can get the vid cam,lap top to record when there is just moovement,lol,sorry,and it will hopefully record the loo seat going up


then u will have evidence on video  
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

laura wrote:
could you have heard the bell as a prompt for you to "open the door" so that your friend could have direct contact with his wife?


I could even try to bring her through myself but the state he is in at the moment that could be quite dangerous.  I never work trance these days and I learnt the hard way.  I was sitting with a group and I was in a fairly deep trance.  One inexperienced person made a sudden move not realising fully what was happening and dammed near tore my guts out.

Lesson

Never ever work trance with inexperienced people.  Especialy emotionaly involved ones
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well David maybe put a video camera in there


put a sign on the door so u remember video is on



and there  are ways you  can get the vid cam,lap top to record when there is just movement,lol,sorry,and it will hopefully record the loo seat going up


then u will have evidence on video  


Mark it's Raymond's toilet not mine.
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Mark, stop daydreaming about Will Young and pay attention.


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