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david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 8123 Location: Essex

This may be a dumb question but I was thinking that martial arts are seen by non practitioners as the ability to defend yourself, and perhaps even kill.

What is the martial artists philosophy on killing?

Like I say this may be a dumb question so pretend that I am eleven years of age.
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Bravo · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: The value of life

david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 8123 Location: Essex

I see, so as with majic etc it is up to individual conscience

I asked because when I worked in Petticoat Lane Market I met a guy who delighted in telling me that he had managed to "damage a mans brain" delighting in re-living the events of the weekend before.

He had certificates to show that he was a national champion in his particular form, I don't remember what, for three years.

I sometimes wonder if martial training in the wrong hands is like a loaded gun.
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Bravo · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject:

Any fool can damage someone, that's not something to brag about.

A real skill, if you find yourself in a self-defence situation (which one should hopefully avoid in the first place, known as the art of fighting without fighting), but if you find yourself in a situation that is totally unavoidable; then the real skill would be to only inflict enough 'damage' to get away, and even then no permanent damage.
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david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 8123 Location: Essex

So self discipline is paramount then.

Could do with a lot more of that in this world I think.

I know that when I played rugby it was hounarable to dump an opposition player with a lot of force.

If you did something stupid like a short arm across the throat of another player that was considered cowardly. This was often done by begginers who didn't understand what they were doing.

The rules of combat.
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evergreen · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject:

Iknow a few peopel who do martial arts and I have noticed a difference between them-

on one side they seem to have learned so they can fight

while the others learned so they dont' have to fight

I'm always impressed with the level that I see many appear to attain of what I can only describe as humble self control
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Raymond · Avatar Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 5591

I work with a bloke who is really into Judo. He goes on and on and on boring the merry hell out of all of us about how he won this tournament or that tournament or he has this trophy or that trophy.
It wouldn't be so bad but he's a real macho 'superhero' sort of fella.

Anyway, the other week there was this man smoking on one of our stations - which, by the way is not allowed - so Hong Kong Phooey (that's what we call the Judo bloke) strides up to him in all his macho glory and informs the smoking man that smoking is prohibited on our railway and he must put the cigarette out at once.
So the man stubbed it out on Hong Kong Phooey's forehead!!!

Laughed? I nearly wet my pants.

david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 8123 Location: Essex

Like they say Raymond.

It's different on the Cobbles.

I know what you mean though, but let's face it someone out of training would stand little chance against someone in training.

having said that I remember once upon a time when I was in an illegal drinker in Folkstone the declared martial artist and body guard to the elite was bragging and challenged me to a wrestling match, well we had had a few.

I left him unconscious on the floor.

Funny what strangulation does to a grown man.

I must admit though I used a technique I learnt in one of the five Judo lessons I had when I was fifteen.
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evergreen · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:44 am Post subject:

thumps David chest for him...

I love it when we all get down and share fight stories

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Samjaza · Ghost Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 297

Martial artists will mimick the reactions of the animal in the stance they reflect.
Study the reactions and instinct of the lion... be the lion.
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Raymond · Avatar Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 5591

You should write a book of wise words Samjaza. Although, if you do please keep the wise information useful and down to earth.

I once had a book of Buddhist wise words. I remember reading just one of them then giving it away:

"A wise man wanting to catch a fish, will not climb a tree."

I don't know about The Buddhist book of wise words, more like The Buddhist book of stating the bleedin' obvious.