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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

often the women who dress like that Billy have many friends with them and often they can look after themselves...  they dress like that because they feel good like that I suppose ... each to their own....  still no reason to be raped as you say


I'm sure it happens often...  and we never hear about it

and I'm also sure many men would never entertain the thought of forcing themselves on someone who is screaming no...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EG and Swanny, I know you think you're both taking the moral high-ground on this one and nobody is actually saying that it's ever justifyed to rape someone but at the end of the day, if a woman acts/dresses/speaks or behaves like a slag then that's exactly how she will be treated by a large number of the male population.

I see many well dressed and well behaved young women who are just as sexy (probably even more so) than the slappers who go round dressed like cheap crack whores.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EG and Swanny, I know you think you're both taking the moral high-ground on this one and nobody is actually saying that it's ever justifyed to rape someone but at the end of the day, if a woman acts/dresses/speaks or behaves like a slag then that's exactly how she will be treated by a large number of the male population.

I see many well dressed and well behaved young women who are just as sexy (probably even more so) than the slappers who go round dressed like cheap crack whores.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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EG and Swanny, I know you think you're both taking the moral high-ground on this one and nobody is actually saying that it's ever justifyed to rape someone but at the end of the day, if a woman acts/dresses/speaks or behaves like a slag then that's exactly how she will be treated by a large number of the male population.

I see many well dressed and well behaved young women who are just as sexy (probably even more so) than the slappers who go round dressed like cheap crack whores.


Raymond, your gay, how can you raise such a point, as to what the general male population of the hetrosexual persuation think of women? i live in south essex right, ok, bit rough, and the blokes round here are mostly c*cks, but rape isn't something we do, and it's certainly not something we essex boys consider if our birds don't put out as it where, you can't make a generalisation like that, it's just not right mate, a fraction of men maybe, but not most
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being gay or straight is irrelivant. A LOT of men (gay or straight) have rape-based fantasies, either giving or receiving.

As you often say Waff, you're only 18. There's still tons of the human sexual responses you have to discover.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really, i know my mind better then you probally know yours, i've had alot of time to discover it and explore it, inside and out, as for sexual responses, duh, no sex drive, i have no need for them, they serve no purpose, i maybe an animal, but that doesn't mean i have to embrace my carnel desires
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spoken like a true 18 year old.

You know fuck all!

What have you done? You're not even born yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yikes Raymond...   lol     there are different levels of maturity not all 18 years olds are how you view them ....    I think Waff is pretty intelligent for any age.. ;)

I have two brothers ...  both very different both attracted to very different kinds of women and people in general ....  

there are slutty men too 9as I am sure we all know) .. and I must say there is no bigger a turn off to me than some smooth bloke putting it out there but I don't think he deserves to be raped either

its not about a higher moral ground Raymond, well I don't think it is anyway, I just think that no one deserves to be raped.. and from my experience it is often not the tartly dress woman who gets raped but very often the innocent one who is perhaps naive.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit of a generalisation there EG. All sorts of people can get raped, even prostitutes.

And once again I say, nobody here thinks it's ok for anybody to be raped.

However, there are some women (and men) who behave in a way that you can't help not being surprised if they do.

As for Waff, he may a fair amount of bookish-based knowledge but his experience of life and common sense is sorely lacking - which is quite normal for an 18 year old.
But there's nothing worse than an 18 year old making claims they've seen life or 'been there'.
Where have they been? What have they done? Nothing.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all very true Raymond...  and I know many 40 plus people making the same claim and they still know nothing.. just pointing out it has nothing to do with age.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes true, but by sheer life experience alone a 40 year old would have been round the block a lot more than an 18 year old.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you would think so... some people don't drive, pay bills, travel or work  or even have their own bank accounts.. some people like by other peoples rules all of their life...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't drive or travel. Is that wrong?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not wrong Raymond , I mean nothing is wrong is it???

But you do you live on your own and you do things with your life  some people just do what others tell them they never think for the,,selves..  thus Waff is perhaps ahead of them already
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was under the impression Waff still lived at home. Maybe I'm wrong on that.

You can't even start to live until you leave home and make your own way in the world.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

evergreen wrote:
they dress like that because they feel good like that I suppose ... each to their own.......


They dress like that because they are obsessed with getting attention, trouble is they cannot control HOW MUCH attention they'll get.
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so now its wrong to go for a drink with strangers...  

You can go for a walk in the park with strangers. drink involves an altered counsciousness and lowering your guard. Until you know the stranger better I suggest eat an icecream in a public place in broad daylight or have a walk in a park full of people at noon. Plenty of time to talk to people and make friends in the daylight.
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Raymond wrote:

I see many well dressed and well behaved young women who are just as sexy (probably even more so) than the slappers who go round dressed like cheap crack whores.


I love how you put it and you are perfectly right.
Gay or not, people have eyes to appreciate what's sexy even at the ones who're of the same gender. You're not sexy but vulgar with your tits out of the dress, a nice cleavage would do the trick or maybe even the decoletee covered in lace up to your neck which leaves things to the imagination...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always preferred trying to guess how someone looks naked.

Actually seeing them naked is almost always a disapointment.
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I've always preferred trying to guess how someone looks naked.

Actually seeing them naked is almost always a disapointment.


If I am in love they can look like Quasimodo and I don't care. Of course, I was never in love with Quasimodo Big Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I can say is that Trinny & Suzannah have empowered a lot of women to dress to show off their assets as a woman.  To Look and feel sexy.

TV shows like this never expand on the dangers of women dressing as these so called experts promote and even demand.

These two women would bully and belittle women into dressing to to show off their bodies.  Even older and larger women like myself.

Until the culture of promoting women's fashion as looking and feeling sexy is modified, these attacks on women and even some men will continue to happen and it will all be blamed on their percieved image.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's nothing wrong with placing importance on how you look Sheela.

I see literally thousands of people every day and to be perfectly honest I hope that even 10 years after physical death I don't look as bad as half of them.

Having a pride in how you look is a good thing. I wish more people had it.
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i think that we have a bit of a victorian attitude towards sex in this country.....and lots of double standards........therefore we get a lot of weirdos .........

i lived in germany for 2 years.every town has a brothel.....you can go and get your rocks off for £20........(no i didnt) there is no stigma.......
they also have a different attitude to nudity.......they say it is natural/we are born without clothes.........

yet here we have the papers with topless girls on page 3 .........on page 4 they are going on about someone doing something disgusting.and page 5 a revealation by some 'celebrity' about how many blokes she shagged!

the daily mail-hilarious- has features that say 'she was almost naked' when a woman is wearing a bikini ffs!

because of this odd viewpoint/lack of respect/morons/no fear  etc we have a situation where the imbeciles think they can do what they want...and generally can.........

we cant legislate for everything......and there will always be blokes that will do whatever-regardless of the consequences.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is looking good, and giving an open invitation with certain clothes, even if you think they make you look good.

Every one has their own perceptions about others looks.

So what seems a friendly sexy look to the person wearing what they consider sexy clothes, could seem like an open invitation to another person who perceives what they see differently.

I have large mamory glands, but I am never comfortable wearing low tops which expose them.  If I find clothing I like that has a low neckline, I wear a dressy vest or t-shirt underneath that clothing.


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