Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:50 am Post subject: Re: MJ
david hobbs wrote:
It makes me wonder just how many of our emotions are provoked to suit either government or commerce.
Quite a high percentage I would imagine. And not only by government or commerce either.
It isn't very difficult to make people feel a whole array of emotion.
Next time our delightful government wants to go to war with somebody you watch how they try to make us all feel terribly patriotic and proud of our country.
When they want our support it's all "Britain this...", "Britain that..." when they don't particularly want our support it's "International community this...", "Multicultural society that..."
Here's a good 'Michael Jackson Ghost' video. You really can see him. Just at the end of the clip look over the kids' shoulder and you will see Jackson appear. He really is there, you have to look closely at your screen though and I promise you will see him...
I am a lifelong fan of MJ. My parents loved him too and I grew up with his music.
I was one of the people who went and queued outside the O2 for tickets. Drove from North Wales to London to sit outside for 72 hours to get a chance to see him perform live.
When I heard on the news he was in hospital I was worried, not about my tickets or the concerts, but for the health of a man I admired.
Whe it was confirmed he had died I cried. So much that although I was trying to be silent, I woke my partner Robert up because I was sobbing so much I was shaking the bed.
I watched the memorial with my daughter and I cried in parts.
I shed tears for a man I never knew.
I cried in sympathy for the family, for his children. I cried for the loss of an incredible talent, for the way he lost his life. I felt an empathy with the people who had taken their time to remember someone they knew and loved and I was moved.
I also cried because a man I see as a gentle, generous, loving person was villified bacause of our warped and perverted society. I really don't want to debate the accusations made about him, the fact is I believe with all my heart that he was an innocent man. Now he will never be able to answer his critics. Apparently being aquitted of a crime is not enough.
I cried because a man who had indisputable mental illnesses/issues did not recieve the support he needed and was instead surrounded in users, lost his life. Nobody was there to advise him. Nobody told him enough is enough. He was vunerable and nobody was willing to take his best interests to heart.
A quack doctor overdosed him and he died. That is terrible.
This week I watched the coffins of our servicemen being brought back and I cried. Having a military background and alot of friends in the forces I felt these losses on a personal level.
Does this make me over emotional? I don't know. I don't shed tears easily in day to day life. I certainly don't cry because I think I should.
Apparently being aquitted of a crime is not enough.
Not when the accused pays an out of court settlement to the accuser of something in the region of $13million it doesn't.
I'll be honest, I never really had a lot of time for Michael Jackson. Not because of his alleged goings-on with children, I just never much liked him or his music.
Along with Elvis and The Beatles I never thought he was particularly talented and just never "got" the whole 'Michael Jackson' thing.
I have many friends who thought of him in pretty much the same way as you did Sian and I can empathise with how you feel.
I'm sure when the day comes for Shirley Bassey to go belly up I will feel just the same way.
Again I refuse to argue over the accusations against him. It is a no win argument and I only commit my energy to arguments I know I will win :)
I think music is a very personal and powerful thing which affects us all in different ways. I am a musical person, I couldn't live without it. I sing and play music all day (and night much to my Mr's annoyance). To lose a part of my musical world was, and is, very distressing.
When I was growing up all my friends listened to Madonna, Kylie etc., I listened to Shirley Bassey, Judy Garland and Dorothy Squires, (yeah, even back then I was always odd).
Those kind of female singers are what music is all about for me.
Each time Bassey sings a song she gives a part of her life force away. She literally puts her heart and soul into every word, the same could also be said about Garland.
I've travelled all over the country to see Bassey in concert and each time I left with a part of her. I never once felt she was just standing there singing because "it's her job", unlike many of today's singers.
Talent like Shirley Bassey is a dying breed, and I will even go as far as to say talent like Jackson is a dying breed, that's why even though I'm not a fan of Jackson I do respect his talent.
I think people also forget he was a great philanthropist. He gave many millions of dollars to various charities and causes. Paid for a childs organ transplant, paid for 47 tons of aid to be flown to an area of need, built orphanages, funded childrens charities, environmental charites, animal charities. If you were to listen to the words of songs like man in the mirror and heal the world and then look at how he spent a portion of his money then maybe we would learn something.
He never shouted about it, never went on E! News to tell the world how much he was donating, he just did it. THIS is a massive part of why I admire the man and why I was truly deeply saddened at his death.
The fact is that he wrote (in my opinion and that of millions of people world wide) great songs, was a world class dancer, as acknowledged by the best pro dancers in the world, at 50 he was keeping up with them!
He was a father. His children have lost thier father. This is a tragedy to the hardest of souls.
Maybe I am a fool for feeling a great sadness in his passing. If so I am a fool who is proud of myself for not being afraid to be foolish
Here ends my input on this subject. I am done.
*Climbing down from my soapbox to have a quiet weep*
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