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Lilly · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject:

I don't have the original,only Harry Price had that.
The following is the closest I can get to the original.Note that the 'ectoplasm is not coming out of her nose,where it should be,but has obviously been planted on. True ectoplasm is misty. My Dad too, would have laughed in their faces,but as I said earlier,the image you see here is not the image seen at the seance.
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Lilly · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject:

I'll try again later,my image didn't appear [been 'spirited' away] LOL
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Lilly · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject:

Success! not such a smart 'a' am I? but I get there in the end!
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Kas · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject:

Well i'm off to see a paranormal illusionist next Saturday in Oxford.
I'll let you know what happens.

Kas · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject:

Lilly,
thankyou for posting the pictures, and thankyou for telling us this story.
Hopefully we can bring a few things to light.
I am at the current conclusion that the photo's were faked by an outside party. Let's see what we can find out?

Kas

Raymond · Avatar Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 5622

It looks like Cilla Black.

"Step inside love..."

david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 8153 Location: Essex

This thread is becoming more intiuging by the day.

The great thing is that these people, Price and Duncan etc are Oh so human.

As someone said a fraud investigating a fraud.

I don't hold with that myself, because I simply don't know, but when you have a person of experience like Lilly stating that the ectoplasm photo's were faked by price then it adds another dimension to the whole thing.

Lilly may I ask you if you have any friends or aquaintances with experience of the Duncan/ Price era.
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Kas · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:20 am Post subject:

http://www.helenduncan.org.uk/index.html

I see there is no mention of Price or the photo's on the official website.
Reading it though, Duncan's campaigners solely point the finger at the government and that D-Day was looming. Interesting though that Churchill beleived her?

Raymond · Avatar Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 5622

Churchill was a great believer in the paranormal. Apparently he regularly had Mediums visit Downing Street.
The flunkey's worked tirelessly to keep it all from the press.

david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 8153 Location: Essex

Two things.

These séances were supposed to have taken place in a dim light yet the pictures look bright. So someone must have done something to them I should think.

I saw mention on another site that Churchill in fact used Helen Duncan as a medium himself.

If I were prime minister and had a genuine soothsayer available I wouldn't lock her up I would see what information I could get toward the war effort.
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Lilly · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:10 pm Post subject:

Kas · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject:

Kas · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject:

david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 8153 Location: Essex

May be, but I don't think any medium would want a flash going off during a sitting.

No more than any stage performer would want flashing lights in their eyes when they are on stage.
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Kas · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:02 pm Post subject:

But equally you can't take a photo in the dark.
That must be next weeks lesson.

david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 8153 Location: Essex

Perhaps Lilly will know as her parents were there at the time it was taken.
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david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 8153 Location: Essex

For my part and being totally honest I wouldn't trust any psychic input if it meant basing my life and that of others on it.

But I guess that's just me.
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Raymond · Avatar Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 5622

And only a fool would...

But why is it such a strange thing to think a leader wouldn't want that extra element when having to make such important decisions?

david hobbs · Avatar Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 8153 Location: Essex

Well the Germans must have had some very dodgey psychics.

Far viewing by government agencies to spy on other nations is a documented fact.

So yes leaders would and do use everything at their disposal.

But we all know how iffy the input can be.
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Lilly · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject:

Lilly · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject:

david hobbs wrote:
If I were prime minister and had a genuine soothsayer available I wouldn't lock her up I would see what information I could get toward the war effort.
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Helen Duncan always stated firmly that she did not make predictions,only brought through spirits who had passed on.
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Kas · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject:

Lilly, sorry if you have said this already but what was the relationship of your parents to Helen Duncan?

Lilly · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject:

Kas · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject:

Ok thanks Lilly.
Do the Essex Healers Association still exist then?