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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Why do armies exist? Reply with quote

Sounds daft I know, and the first answer is that armies exist to defend the realm.

What does that mean exactly?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought armies existed to fill out sleevies.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Armies exist to enforce political will upon others by use of force where reason does not suffice
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you've met my boss.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes it really is better to say nothing than say something stupid.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree, Raymond.  If I don't say something stupid, it doesn't give you the opportunity to be a cantankerous old git and then you would run the risk of just evaporating into the ether...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was actually going to post yesterday that they give us something for our handies to fix to.  
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I disagree, Raymond.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah Raymond / Bravo you really make me laugh  

Armies are there to keep peace   LOL  


Big Grin    and how ridiculous is that
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not ridiculous at all. Every country has it's own interests to protect, without a useful and strong deterent anybody could just walk in and take what we hold dear.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Armies exist to enforce political will upon others by use of force where reason does not suffice


I never mentioned peace
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ah Raymond / Bravo you really make me laugh  

Armies are there to keep peace   LOL  


Big Grin    and how ridiculous is that


I have just re-read your post Evergreen and I think that the role of peace keeper is one role played by armies along with defence of the realm.

However they are also used to quell dissatisfied population and to protect the interests of big business and dictators .  So some benefit from an army whilst others are robbed by them.  A soldiers job is to fight regardless of the reason.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Armies exist so that the highest bidder can take over a country Big Grin
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However they are also used to quell dissatisfied population and to protect the interests of big business and dictators


I'm sure the decent people of Greece are happy to have an army at the moment.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raymond wrote:
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However they are also used to quell dissatisfied population and to protect the interests of big business and dictators


I'm sure the decent people of Greece are happy to have an army at the moment.


I bet that the politicians are even happier, the army can protect there jobs.

This trouble isn't just over one poor sod being shot.

It is about and underlying and growing discontent within the population.  

Solution, bring out the army.

Depending on circumstance of political climate armies can be used for you or against you.

It's a pity we don't have a bit more of it here.  Rioting that is.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's a pity we don't have a bit more of it here.  Rioting that is.


I would agree with that!

However, governments mustn't be allowed to fall just because the great unwashed of a society feel a bit pissed off.

From watching the news reports the vast majority of the people involved in the Greek rioting seem to be young people and students - soap dodgers all.

Let's face it, it really wouldn't do to bring down a government because a few scruffy students with no real life experience are a bit annoyed because some scabby hoody got shot.

Incidentally, I haven't yet heard why the police shot him. I'd lay a month's wages and have a wild guess that he was up to no good.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Armies exist to keep the population down.

As the population explosion continues more wars will break out.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Armies exist to keep the population down.

As the population explosion continues more wars will break out.

Fire Dragon


That can be taken two ways.

Do you mean they kill off the population or they supress them?

I think it is a bit of both really.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course.

Disease is meant to keep the numbers down but we manage to keep breeding like rabbits anyway.

And when you have gooky religions like Catholicism telling people to keep breeding but don't wear a condom then the simple people of Africa will do it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

armies exist so people like us can write things like this without the fear
of being dragged out our beds put up against a wall and shot. freedom of speech is a wonderfull thing indeed.

my children may never have to pick up a gun to defend their country or wear a uniform,but they are damn proud of those who do and have.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't quite agree.

Armies do exist to protect us but some also exist to keep populations under control.

There are many reasons why armies exist.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

white wolf wrote:
my children may never have to pick up a gun to defend their country or wear a uniform,but they are damn proud of those who do and have.


Bloody well said!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading this thread I see propaganda has done its job brilliantly.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diana wrote:
Reading this thread I see propaganda has done its job brilliantly.


Why is that Diana? Because other people happen to have a different opinion to yours?

How very 'conspiracy theorist' of you.

Anyone who disagrees with you just has to be wrong don't they?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

armies are used by the rich and powerful to steal other peoples land,money and property..without getting hurt themselves!

can you see blair,brown or mandy sorting out the taliban?


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