Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: what was the worst spirit you came across,and how bad
my worst was at a lodge somewhere in essex,couldnt see it but it managed to slam the door ,give off a nasty smell and managed to give a deep growel ,and that was enough for me as i was on my own ...... _________________ im well into the paranormal ,as i have been very lucky to have seen a few.and also experianced a few strange happenings that i cannot explain...
i would like to know its interesting and gives us signs to look out for pm me if you dont want to put on here please tell please please _________________ im well into the paranormal ,as i have been very lucky to have seen a few.and also experianced a few strange happenings that i cannot explain...
I was 15, a bit of a rebel and stayed out, went to night clubs with my friend Ann. We did,nt drink, but loved the dancing. Then we would sneak back in our houses when we went home.
It was about 2-3am the one night when i climbed though my front room window. and went down the stairs to the living room where i had hidden a blanket behind the sofa in the daytime. (did,nt want to wake my dad going up the stairs that time of morning).
the coal fire had burnt down to embers in the fireplace. I could hear the budgies and canaries in their cages in the alcove tweeting away. and the jack russel dog and her one pup that was only about 9 weeks old was excited to see me.
The sofa was against the wall on one side of the room. the dining table the other wall below the window. the kitchen door was between the table and the fire. Behind the door stopping it from blowing open was an old cast iron punch door stop. (Punch from punch & judy).
Anyway i turned the light out, took my jeans off and got on the sofa with the blanket. I was only on the sofa for a few minutes when the birds went silent, the dog ran up the stairs and up to the bedrooms and the puppy tried to run up the stairs but was,nt big enough to manage the stairs. so the puppy came and stood in front of me laying on the sofa yapping at the dark.
I could,nt see anything at all except a blackness, even though i had my eyes open and my eyes should have been able to see the shadows of the furniture in the room.
I just lay there scared because i did,nt understand what was happening.
I heard the kitchen door opening and heard the dragging sound of the punch being forced across the floor as the door was opened.
I could hear a very heavy raspy breathing. I can describe exactly what this thing looked like even though i did,nt see it through the whole experience.
It dragged itself across the room and threw the puppy in the fire because it was still yapping. The puppy ran out of the fire yelping and came back to the sofa and started yapping again. this thing then threw it against the wall at the side of the table. I did,nt hear the puppy after that. it went silent.
I started saying the lords prayer, asking my mum who had died when i was seven to help me. I tried screaming for my dad, but even though my mouth was open, i could,nt get a sound out.
This thing then put what i know was his arm along the length of my leg. It felt solid but hollow and cold. That is the only way i can explain it.
It took its arm away and i thought it was going to leave, but it did,nt. It took one jump and was sat on my feet. It felt weightless but solid at the same time. It dragged itself up the length of my body and sat on my chest looking down at my face. and i felt like it was smirking or pleased with itself for the amount of fear in me.
All of a sudden i found my voice and started screaming like hell for my dad. While this black thinking was sat on my chest, i could hear my dad fall out of bed, and could hear him heading out of the bedroom to get to me. As my dad was coming down the stairs and trying to get his trousers on at the same time. this thing jumped down off me and dragged itself back across the room and out the kitchen door.
One of the things i could,nt understand is the fact it did,nt seem to be in a hurry to get out. it just took its time as though there was no rush.
Anyway my dad asked me what happened so i told him everything. He checked on the puppy who was laying on the floor next to the table. Its back was burnt from the fire, and the fur never grew back. we kept the puppy ourselves. The birds were all dead from shock in the bottoms of the cages.
And me? well i know 1st hand that not everything out there is Love & Light.
There are things out there that a person should never have to meet.
I have asked myself the same question over and over again since that night.
Why me???
Why did it visit me??? What had i done so bad to have that thing pay me a visit??
I was a normal 15 year old kid.
Alright so i have always been able to see spirit, ghosts, whatever you want to call them. But i never ever deserved or asked for something like that to come to me!!!
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:49 am Post subject: nasty
did that really happen or was that written from a book,if it did im sorry it happend to you,how did your dad take or understand when you told him what you saw.
do you know what it was. _________________ im well into the paranormal ,as i have been very lucky to have seen a few.and also experianced a few strange happenings that i cannot explain...
Hahahaha Don,t i wish it was taken from a book. i,m afraid my imagination is,nt that vivid.
Exactly what i wrote is exactly what happened to me when i was 15.
My dad believed me off course. He was a psychic medium amongst other things, I think he was a witch even though he would,nt admit as much to us kids.
He told me that it would never come to me again and that i could feel safe as he would make sure it did,nt come again. He went all round the house whispering something. i don,t know what he was saying as it was only a quiet whisper. then he came back i the room, told me if i was still scared to get my blanket and sleep on the bottom of his bed.
I wish i had got it out of a book as its a memory that is still crystal clear to me and a memory that is not wanted as its held me back in life.
There are both sides out there. and people need to be very aware of the negative as well as the positive side.
I am always on my guard and wary when it comes to spirit. and i feel its the right way to be.
I wonder if you think that perhaps your father had in some way caused this to happen by his apparent interest in the occult? _________________ Please visit our main site
By the way, Swanny, you really must stop talking about your experience all the time.
By speaking about it to all and sundry not only are you keeping the memory alive in your own head you could also unknowingly evoke the spirit again.
You'll notice I never speak of some of the incredible things that have happened to me simply because I don't want them happening again.
No David. I did,nt and don,t for one instance think that it had anything to do with my dad hun.
My dad was interested in all areas of the spiritual realm, wicca, pagan. He was what i would call a learner.
He wanted to know everything there was to know. But he had no practice in the dark side of the realm. That much i do know.( my nan, Dad,s mum would have known and mudered him after teaching him everything she knew)
Raymond???? Thank you for enlightening me. I truly am still learning all the time. and did,nt realise it was possible to evoke the same spirit/thing unknowingly. Thank you.
sorry for asking you to bring it up i dint realise you could make it happen again, my deepest apologies to you for that hun.
i am still learning to so i wont be doing that again.
i just need to learn a lot from people with experience in this thing so all inf is gratefull... _________________ im well into the paranormal ,as i have been very lucky to have seen a few.and also experianced a few strange happenings that i cannot explain...
I didn't realise that you could make it happen again by talking about it either.
I shall have to think about that one, and in the mean time say that if you do not talk about things you will learn nothing especially how to handle difficult situations.
But I guess that I was taught to face things in order to earth them.
I have put page after page of my experiences on here and I will chat to anyone who asks either publicly, which I have done on many occasions,, and I have not had any repeat performances.
Sorry folks I don't buy this concept
But then perhaps that is becuase it has not happened to me. _________________ Please visit our main site
It is entirely possible to evoke certain entities merely by talking about them and unless you know exactly what entities you are working with then I suggest you err on the side of caution when discussing them.
As Swanny doesn't know what it was that attacked her I think it's unwise for her to be chatting so casually about it given the fact she is still in fear of it returning even after all this time, just in case it is an entity that could be so easily evoked.
I just re-read my last post and I'm not happy with it so I shall try again.
There are entities at work "out there" that live and thrive on negative emotion. You could almost say it's like a food to them.
Normally these entities don't bother living people and the vast majority of us go through llife without ever experiencing them.
It is possible to evoke these entities and control them into doing your bidding as in thought form etc,.
When these entities 'latch onto' a person it is incredibly difficult to get rid of them.
They usually find people who live in a constant state of unhappiness or negativity or alcohol, drug or some other substance abusers.
They create a cycle of misery for the poor unfortunate they do get thier hooks into because the more the 'host' is unhappy the more the entity has to feed upon.
These entities can also be introduced to a person through the placing of a curse or some form of psychic attack.
Unless you know these entities and know how to work with them it is very, very unwise to dabble with them and, yes, talking about them can be more than enough to evoke them.
Swanlady has spoken to me about her experience before she posted it on the forum.
From the conversation it was obvious that she still fears another attack from this entity, even after all this time.
As we do not know what this entity was or where it came from I think it's unwise for her to keep talking about it.
The fear she still has for this entity is more than enough to keep it 'feeding' from her and make a return visit if it so wishes.
Swanny, I really don't mean to give you the heeby-jeebies by saying all of this because as I said to you on the telephone I really think if this entity was going to attack you again I'm a confident it would have done so by now.
It's just wise not to 'tempt fate', as it were.
Mr. Hobbs, I'm surprised and indeed saddened that you have chosen to make fun if this advice as until now I had you pegged as a very wise man.
You have,nt given me the Heebie Jeebies at all Raymond. It makes a lot of sense in what you say. And i agree with you completely.
I believe it just took someone like yourself to advice me correctly.
If my dad was still here with me today, I am more than sure he would have given me the same advice as you have. In fact, i now realise why he was always telling me to try and forget it happened and not to give it another thought as it would,nt harm me or scare me again.
To know there are such things out there helps me to develop, to learn, to form a view as a starting place to learn from.
To bottle things away, or to push them from mind when there is a fear attached to them, makes me fear them more. Sooner or later I have to face it, and I have found it better to do that before the fear becomes so great it paralyses me. In understanding, the fear is lessened. Maybe that is the consequence of an enquiring mind.
Myself and a friend were dabbling. those dodgy 'Finbarr' books on salt rituals/Candle spells. We gave up. I left a thurible with burning incense -Saturn in the hallway.
Suddenly I said to my mate "who's that just came in" and could feel the presence of somebody coming down the hallway. My friend went white and asked why I sad that because he could smell something (not the incense )
Through the door came a hazy column of grey light, this glided through the room straight towards me, enveloped me and in that instant I felt an enormous emotional outburst of grief and sorrow. being younger we legged it.
My friend continued to be paranoid in that flat for days until eventually he went to a priest in barking who blessed the house.
However, things still happened.
He left a year later. Knowing the neighbours they informed him that quite a few people had been and gone.
The Dagenham Post reported some years after that a huge fire engulfed a flat in Bamber house, it was his flat.
whoops.
That's what dabbling does.
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I remember begin 4 and introducing my mother to a tall cowboy in my bedroom only to be hauled off to the shrink the next morning ...
one thing that sticks in my mind from younger years about 12 years is floating above the ground while out on a camping trip I had been to bed and got up again thou I can' remember actually getting up only begin outside.. there was a white mist around everywhere and some strange white lights and I felt as though I was so lightheaded I couldn't control what I was doing.. I think it was my recalled out of body experience- unfortunately my friends cant' recall a darn thing I recall speaking to them while I was floating but they either didn't' hear me or didn't' bother
answering and the next day when I spoke of it no one remembered it at all but I had the damp clothes to prove it...
I'm not entirely sure what happened that night it was mid summer here in Australia so very hot and there is really no logical way we would have had mist or fog - ??? hmm what do you guys think
I've had a spirit try to enter my body and actually vomited from my efforts to keep them out... thank god we learn from each xperience _________________ as a babe drinks from its mothers breast so too does man milk mother earth
So where does dabbling end and working with these things begin
There are two ways of becoming an "expert" with working with spirit (especially the darker side).
You can either learn from an already existing "expert" or dabble away until you eventually become an expert yourself.
Now, since the "experts" are very thin on the ground and probably wouldn't be willing to teach you anyway the only other way is to dabble.
I have nothing against people dabbling. Sometimes it really is the best way to learn a thing. Sink or swim.
You can teach yourself how to re-wire a house if you like and dabble with electrics but expect a few shocks along the way.
This conversation, however turned specifically onto Swanlady's experience which I know terrifyed her and she's not willing to have it happen to her again. I simply advised her to put it out of her mind and not continually talk about it.
If the rest of you wish to dabble in order to learn then I wish you every success.
Yes it did terrify me. and never want to experience anything like that again.
I have spoken to Raymond in person about this experience and he knows how afraid i am of it reoccurring. So to me he is a friend whom i feel very strongly has advised me correctly. and actually put my mind at rest with his advice.
Everyone is different. some can handle and even welcome such experiences as i had.
Myself on the other hand live in fear of negative experiences. so i will be taking Raymond's advice and trying my best to leave that one experience behind me.
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