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Kas

Zenner cards and other tests

http://www.salemtarot.com/cgi-bin/rhine.pl

http://www.paranormality.com/esp_tests.shtml

Post your scores.
david hobbs

0% on both trials
Kas

1 out of 5 on the first.
That obviously proves i'm more psychic than you David.  

Feels a bit strange though trying to do this at a computer monitor. Somehow with the cards in front of you on a table it feels a bit more possible.
Probably not though.
david hobbs

Kas wrote:
1 out of 5 on the first.
That obviously proves i'm more psychic than you David.  

Feels a bit strange though trying to do this at a computer monitor. Somehow with the cards in front of you on a table it feels a bit more possible.
Probably not though.


It depends on mood, place, and time.

One mistake a lot of scientists make is to consider psychism constant
laura

3 out of 5! good guess!!
david hobbs

laura wrote:
3 out of 5! good guess!!


No.

Your'e a genius

Give us a reading

Oh go on

My mum had one once and she said everything was dead right.

Can you talk to my dad for me

How much do you charge.
laura

hehehe....what you reckon i should give up my day job?!
david hobbs

laura wrote:
hehehe....what you reckon i should give up my day job?!


No there is a shortage of lap dancers at the moment
meiah

0% - all the right cards in the wrong order. Hey ho.
david hobbs

Now why do I get the feeling that some people are to shy to put their results on.
Waffle King

I got 1 out of 5 at the first one, but i ask the question.

How the hell are we supposed to know what a computer is looking at? it has no bleeding eyes!  
evergreen

well I think those things are total rubbish especially having a choice it makes the mind switch on which is not a good thing... anyway I got

2 out of 5

and then 10 out of 10 .. because I didn't' look at the words I just asked to see what it was...

Anyway I don't think these are good test I agree with you David not only to scientist think that it is there 24/7 everyone else often makes that mistake too
david hobbs

evergreen wrote:
well I think those things are total rubbish especially having a choice it makes the mind switch on which is not a good thing... anyway I got

2 out of 5

and then 10 out of 10 .. because I didn't' look at the words I just asked to see what it was...

Anyway I don't think these are good test I agree with you David not only to scientist think that it is there 24/7 everyone else often makes that mistake too
10 out of ten's not too bad

Who did you ask for the answers?
david hobbs

Waffle King wrote:
I got 1 out of 5 at the first one, but i ask the question.

How the hell are we supposed to know what a computer is looking at? it has no bleeding eyes!  


You make a good point Waff

Do we need a living subject to make contact with?

Certain electric fields do affect psychic performance.

Em
Deb's

2 out of 5... can't believe I have nothing better to do lol....

love & light,

Deb's. x
Waffle King

david hobbs wrote:
Waffle King wrote:
I got 1 out of 5 at the first one, but i ask the question.

How the hell are we supposed to know what a computer is looking at? it has no bleeding eyes!  


You make a good point Waff

Do we need a living subject to make contact with?

Certain electric fields do affect psychic performance.

Em


Indeed on every count Mr 'Obbs
evergreen

david hobbs wrote:
evergreen wrote:
well I think those things are total rubbish especially having a choice it makes the mind switch on which is not a good thing... anyway I got

2 out of 5

and then 10 out of 10 .. because I didn't' look at the words I just asked to see what it was...

Anyway I don't think these are good test I agree with you David not only to scientist think that it is there 24/7 everyone else often makes that mistake too
10 out of ten's not too bad

Who did you ask for the answers?



I opened up purposely took all throught away from it and then .. I heard what they were... So I guess I asked the voices  
david hobbs

evergreen wrote:
david hobbs wrote:
evergreen wrote:
well I think those things are total rubbish especially having a choice it makes the mind switch on which is not a good thing... anyway I got

2 out of 5

and then 10 out of 10 .. because I didn't' look at the words I just asked to see what it was...

Anyway I don't think these are good test I agree with you David not only to scientist think that it is there 24/7 everyone else often makes that mistake too
10 out of ten's not too bad

Who did you ask for the answers?



I opened up purposely took all throught away from it and then .. I heard what they were... So I guess I asked the voices  



I didn't realise that you were clairaudient Evergreen

Do you think hearing is better than seeing

More direct perhaps.
evergreen

I really can't answer that David I have a number of senses each is effective depending on what is coming through..

sometimes when I'm not clear what I am hearing I ask that I be specifically shown - and they will even just stand in front of me and shake their heads yes or  no to my questions....  LOL   Hearing is great but then it all pretty great

It may be easier to explain that when I see illness in bodies I then hear where it has stemed from and when it began and why it has manifested and not been dealt with.. they work together for me- I guess the hear doesn take the guess out out of things - What do you think David I guess I just wrongly assume that everyone hears and sees??

David I have just got off the phone with a "healer" who has just moved to Tassie he is going to do a jaw reset on my son this evening and is interested in teaching me some of his techniques he was so interesting -  I may have found me another mentor .... patience does pay off
david hobbs

I think that hearing must be a great gift.  It is very direct.

I always wanted to have clauireaudience but alas I only ever managed a bit of seeing ans feeling.

The thing that has always puzzled me is that on a number of occasions I have seen a clairaudient giving wrong names and information most of the evening.

If someone can speak to you from spirit and they are giving information how can they get it so wrong.

Bear in mind that I do not hear so do not understand any difficulties there may be.
evergreen

Oh David.. when I do hear a name it is right... I just don't' hear names very often....  Sometimes I get the strangest names and if you take all thought away and just trust then it is right (my experience anyway)

sometime I hear things shouted sometimes they are quiet but they are always clear

I can't speak for others but maybe they are not hearing so much as getting inferred knowledge (a knowing ) I get that too but I think if you are working names that way it may come out not clear ....

Does that make any sense to you at all  
evergreen

david hobbs wrote:
I think that hearing must be a great gift.  It is very direct.

The thing that has always puzzled me is that on a number of occasions I have seen a clairaudient giving wrong names and information most of the evening.

If someone can speak to you from spirit and they are giving information how can they get it so wrong.

Bear in mind that I do not hear so do not understand any difficulties there may be.


To answer this if you are tired then you wont' hear so clearly it is much like real hearing... I didnt' realise it was unusual David my kids all have it too???? it sound like someone just talking to you sometimes it can be anoying because you think there is someone there and I often answer them and turn to find I am alone or being stared at by others  

I have stood to do platform work (my 1 and only time) and informed the audience I dont' get names or dates so try not to expect things like that just be open to the information ... and then heard the words "..Joesph is here..." and turned to a lady in the 4th row and said your father in law Joseph is here just to make a liar out of me and preceeded with in depth information that he passed on about family members and some break in the family and arguements he and she had had before he passed and the fact it was her birthday in four days and he then gave me a number of dates..    - it was a very healing thing- but he  totally used voice with me hardly any sight

I learned a few things that day never say never, making the audience laugh is a great way to break the ice (and Joseph taught me that ) .. and you can't always work with another medium in their domain they may get very jealous

anyway the point I am trying to make is that like people, spirits will choose different means depending on the channel they are using I'd say it is 50% medium and 50% spirit
evergreen

I keep thinking about this David have you ever asked to hear things?

I know I will say show me or tell me depending on what I think is needed and that really helps me
david hobbs

evergreen wrote:
I keep thinking about this David have you ever asked to hear things?

I know I will say show me or tell me depending on what I think is needed and that really helps me



No I have never asked to hear things.

I will have a go ASAP.
evergreen

so how are you going on the hearing side of things did you ever bother to ask to hear things rather than being shown?
david hobbs

evergreen wrote:
so how are you going on the hearing side of things did you ever bother to ask to hear things rather than being shown?



I will ask right now, and during the day for spirit to speak to me.

If they can be heard above her indoors then they are better than my wildest deams would ever anticipate.
evergreen

david hobbs

Yes I heard something.

It was her indoors telling me that the weather was just right to finish painting the house.

That's the spirit.

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