Kas
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Your own case. GemmaWe have recently been joined by a young lady called Gemma.
Please do not welcome her to the forum as she doesn't exist.
Sometimes I get private cases. They usually start from an e-mail.
Someone needing help or advice.
They maybe experiencing something paranormal and need your help.
If you would like to take part then please respond to Gemma's messages as if it had been sent to you via e-mail personally and privately.
Also feel free to discuss the case on here.
There are no correct answers. No right or wrong.
But please reply as if this is a real person.
She isn't, and all of the events are fiction.
Both myself and David work on private cases.
We both work very differently though.
However, we both try to help those involved.
Keep this in mind.
Also, obviously, psychic or mediumship reading will not help here.
Gemma will post something on here soon.
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Raymond
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What?
We're supposed to respond to someone you've told us doesn't exist?
And Hobbs has the nerve to say us witches are full of ourselves!
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Diana
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So if psychic and mediumship reading will not help then what response do you expect?
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Raymond
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Another attempt at trying to understand the unknowable in logical terms I suppose.
Yawn!
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wackyjacky
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Yeah, sorry Kas, I'm not quite getting the point of this one 
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david hobbs
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| Raymond wrote: | What?
We're supposed to respond to someone you've told us doesn't exist?
And Hobbs has the nerve to say us witches are full of ourselves! |
Now I never ever said that and never would
I would imply it though
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david hobbs
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So where's Gemma
Let me at her the non existent little hussey.
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david hobbs
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| Raymond wrote: | Another attempt at trying to understand the unknowable in logical terms I suppose.
Yawn! |
Just play the game for once in your life and let us kids play with you.
So serious
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Kas
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Sorry. I didn't realise you were all so narrow minded and believed that helping someone is only about using mediumship.
I thought it would be interesting to see how each of you approached the case. There would have been a few twists and turns to make it interesting.
I won't bother though.
You can all go back to your rupus room.
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swanlady
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| Kas wrote: | Sorry. I didn't realise you were all so narrow minded and believed that helping someone is only about using mediumship.
I thought it would be interesting to see how each of you approached the case. There would have been a few twists and turns to make it interesting.
I won't bother though.
You can all go back to your rupus room. |
I had,nt said a word. I was waiting and watching this thread patiently for Gemma to make her appearance.  
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laura
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now dont be daft kas (gemma) i am waiting ....fingers poised on key board ...ready for gemmas post..... go for it!!
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swanlady
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Thats two of us waiting Kas.
I was quite looking forward to the challenge of helping Gemma.
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Taz
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| swanlady wrote: | | Kas wrote: | Sorry. I didn't realise you were all so narrow minded and believed that helping someone is only about using mediumship.
I thought it would be interesting to see how each of you approached the case. There would have been a few twists and turns to make it interesting.
I won't bother though.
You can all go back to your rupus room. |
I had,nt said a word. I was waiting and watching this thread patiently for Gemma to make her appearance. |
Stop being so prickly for gawd sake Kas  !!!
Like Laura and Swanny, I am waiting as patiently as a menopausal, Virgoan Pagan can........(actually that's not very patiently, if I am being honest  )
Come on then, let's be 'avin ya.........
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Diana
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[quote="Kas"]Sorry. I didn't realise you were all so narrow minded and believed that helping someone is only about using mediumship.
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Well, I am not good at that and your wish that we don't use it made me happy. Bring it on.
My question was strictly because your wish seemed strange as this is a paranormal forum . Just needed to doublecheck.
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Kas
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| Diana wrote: |
My question was strictly because your wish seemed strange as this is a paranormal forum . Just needed to doublecheck. |
Mediumship is just one aspect of the paranormal world.
This forum isn't just for the psychic element. It covers all areas of the subject. Or at least it used to be.
I'll give you an example. Not all cases are paranormal. So being psychic would be of no benefit. Would you just walk away and not help?
If the client is disturbed. Would giving her a reading be the correct thing to do?
Sorry if I over reacted. Seems to be infectious on here at the moment.
Gemma will post something later. (and it won't be coming from me).
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Taz
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| Kas wrote: | | Diana wrote: |
My question was strictly because your wish seemed strange as this is a paranormal forum . Just needed to doublecheck. |
Mediumship is just one aspect of the paranormal world.
This forum isn't just for the psychic element. It covers all areas of the subject. Or at least it used to be.
I'll give you an example. Not all cases are paranormal. So being psychic would be of no benefit. Would you just walk away and not help?
If the client is disturbed. Would giving her a reading be the correct thing to do?
Sorry if I over reacted. Seems to be infectious on here at the moment.
Gemma will post something later. (and it won't be coming from me). |
As I am as psychic as a brick I totally agree Kas, with much of what you say.
For instance, I tend to do a tarot reading or try to' tune in' for most things but this is based on confirming for me personally as to whether or not I should get involved in a given situation  .
Sometimes things are best dealt with via more mundane methods. It's irresponsible to just jump in without first assessing what is or might be going on.
Use 'skills' by all means, if the situation warrants it, but someone steaming in using the Craft or or other methods might do more harm than good and this could actually be very dangerous.
Looking forward to hearing something from Gemma later.........
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Raymond
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It would be wrong of any Medium/Witch/Psychic/Whatever to look at all situations with just a paranormal eye.
In any situation you must first eliminate the mundane before you even consider the paranormal.
That's how I work anyway.
With this 'Gemma' I'd just like to know a little more about what all this is actually for? Will the advice be used somewhere? Are other people seeing it? Or is it just a bit of fun?
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Kas
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It's just a bit of fun. No one else is involved.
Hopefully we all might get something from it.
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Raymond
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I see.
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Gemma
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Hello, My name is Gemma Horwell,
A friend of mine has given me your details. I hope you dont mind me contacting you but I was told you may be able to help me?
I feel a little embarrassed talking about this but think I will go out of my mind if I dont ask for some sort or assistance or clarity.
I moved in to my nice new flat about a month ago. Its brand new and everything is lovely but strange things have started happening in the last couple of weeks.
I hear odd noises during the night that I cant explain, rattling and scraping noises. I have seen doors open and close on their own accord.
On a few occasions during the night I have woken abbruptly, it feels like there is somebody in the room with me. Its really quite scary!!
Last week a friend stayed over,she said she saw a strange light in the hallway.
Then yesterday I was speaking to my new neighbour who said the flats are built on the site of an old hospital. It was derelict for years and was meant to be haunted!
Sorry If I sound like I am being daft, but I'm rather unnerved and just dont know what to do. Can you help?
Regards Gemma
Flat 19
Suffolk House
East Street
Chester
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mark
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call most haunted and have some fun ,oh and theyd love to have your address to look things up ,its better that way for the mediums
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Diana
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Wear some earplugs and lock the doors maybe.
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Kas
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Re: Your own case. Gemma | Kas wrote: |
If you would like to take part then please respond to Gemma's messages as if it had been sent to you via e-mail personally and privately.
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Of course feel free to add comments or your views but Gemma will not reply to you.
If you want to speak to her then reply accordingly.
She will reply to you personally.
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Diana
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This case sounds like the 'new Blairwitch project' movie
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swanlady
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| Gemma wrote: | Hello, My name is Gemma Horwell,
A friend of mine has given me your details. I hope you dont mind me contacting you but I was told you may be able to help me?
I feel a little embarrassed talking about this but think I will go out of my mind if I dont ask for some sort or assistance or clarity.
I moved in to my nice new flat about a month ago. Its brand new and everything is lovely but strange things have started happening in the last couple of weeks.
I hear odd noises during the night that I cant explain, rattling and scraping noises. I have seen doors open and close on their own accord.
On a few occasions during the night I have woken abbruptly, it feels like there is somebody in the room with me. Its really quite scary!!
Last week a friend stayed over,she said she saw a strange light in the hallway.
Then yesterday I was speaking to my new neighbour who said the flats are built on the site of an old hospital. It was derelict for years and was meant to be haunted!
Sorry If I sound like I am being daft, but I'm rather unnerved and just dont know what to do. Can you help?
Regards Gemma
Flat 19
Suffolk House
East Street
Chester |
I,m pleased your friend gave you my details. Lets see if we can get this problem sorted for you.
The 1st thing for you to do Gemma is to calm yourself down and please don,t feel embarrassed.
You may find you can think more rationally when your calm sweetheart.
I am sorry to hear of these experiences that you are going through at the moment.
I can well imagine that it is very scary for you and your friends.
If your too afraid to stay there tonight, do you have a friend or relative you can stay with just untill the day light hours when things never seem as scary.
you say the flats are newly built.
Your flat sounds lovely actually.
The scraping and rattling could be the central heating pipes. It is certainly worth getting it checked out Gemma. The pipes on central heating in a complex of flats can make a terrible racket.
it could be that your friend saw reflections from the street lighting in the hallway.
Please try and remember that all areas have their own stories and take the story of the haunted hospital with a pinch of salt or you could use it to your advantage ad invite your new neighbour in for a cup of tea.
It would be a good way of meeting new friends.
Have you a bedside lamp that you can keep on untill you settle little better in your new home.
I hope I,ve helped a little Gemma. If the problem persiss, don,t be afraid to contact me again, and I would like to hear the update on the central heating pipes please.
Best regards. Swannie.
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Gemma
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Hi swannie,
Thanks very much for your swift reply, I do feel rather silly about all of this. Im not normally a jumpy person. I have tried to be logical about the noises I hear and thought about the heating. Thing is, I have electric heating(economy 7) so there are no pipes etc under the floor.
I sleep with a light on now anyway as Im not comfortable being on my own of a night. The neighbour I spoke of is the son of my Landlord, He's a bit wierd to tell the truth and not really the sort of person I'd want to invite in for a cuppa. He's ok to talk to generally but strikes me as a little odd!
I have spent the odd night at a friends house when everything starts to get me down, I dont want to impose too much though.
Thanks so much for your advice, it really helps having someone to talk to about this.
Regards
Gemma
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Raymond
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Contact a local paranormal investigation group and have them hold vigils in your home, if there's anything there they will catch evidence of it.
If after a number of investigations they confirm there's something there then contact a local Medium and have them get rid of it for you.
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sheelanagig
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Hello Gemma,
You are most welcome to contact me at any time. I am happy that your friend thought I may be able to help you. There is no need to be embarrassed or worried about contacting me.
Can I ask how many flats there are in your building? How many Stories are there?
The noises many be coming from your neighbours.
Also the noises you may be hearing is the building structure settling, as the wood, plaster and other structures that make up the new block of flats shrink. There is always lots of noises made by a settling building. Many years ago houses were left empty for months if not a year or so to allow for settling before the tenants or owners moved in. These days we move straight into a building before the paint is even dry LOL.
You may find that after a year or so, the builders will send someone round to inspect all the flats to repair, fill and paint over any remedial work, i.e. shrinkage cracks, walls leaving gaps by window frames and skirting boards.
It can take 5 years or more for a new building to settle, and even after this amount of time you may be aware of odd noises in the middle of the night, as your senses tend to be more honed in the dark.
Floorboards are well known for creaking as the wood expands and contracts when the flat is heated, and then cools when the heating is off.
If you have a central heating system or storage heaters, the housing of the heating system can make weird noises as they heat up and expand and cool down and contract
Did you observe your doors moving during the day? or only at night?
This could be due to an open window creating a draft with perhaps a little back suction which can make a door which is ajar, seem to open and close.
I know the door to my living room often does this when we have our heating on if it is not firmly shut. It may also be caused by drafts which are getting through any shrinkage cracks of which you may not be aware of yet.
Also if the door frame is wooden, the expansion and contraction of the wood can move the doors slightly as new interior door are quite lightweight.
At night time when it is a lot quieter and in darkness your senses maybe more heightened. We all wake up suddenly sometimes, and things just don’t feel right.
Perhaps you are having dreams which you don’t remember on waking, or you are still not used to waking in your flat yet.
I would suggest a bedside table with a lamp which you can immediately turn to quell your fears. Perhaps you could have a radio or TV in your bedroom so that you can switch them on quietly to have the sound of voices to comfort you. This should ease the feeling of someone being there.
I think a lot of us have a little phobia about waking up alone suddenly and not being sure of our bearings, this in itself can create a feeling of something being in the room with us.
The light that your friend may have seen in your corridor may have been the reflection of LED lights on a shiny surface, i.e. painted door or mirror, that may be attached to electrical and/or heating appliances you have, which sometimes switch on or off depending on the time and the appliance.
I understand your concern out the flats being built over an old hospital. I would suggest that you do a little bit of researching into the area where you are now living.
As far as I am aware the only old hospital was at East Gate not East Road, and that was demolished 1650 / 1660 during the Civil War.
I will do some more research on your behalf, but I suggest that you do some too.
Chester is a beautiful city with a very long history, and you may be amazed at what you find out.
The majority of the city has been built within the last 200 years.
I hope this has helped to settle you a little, but please don’t hesitate to contact me should you feel the need to do so.
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david hobbs
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Hello Gemma
Thanks for getting in touch with me. Sorry that you are having a few problems settling in to your new home but that is quite a normal thing to happen and sometimes we can get a little disorientated after moving.
Do you mind if I ask you a few questions to help me get a fuller picture of your situation?
Did you live in a flat or a house before you moved
Do you like to keep the windows open especially at night
Did you discuss your new flat and the little problem with the friend who stayed with you before she had her experiences in your new home
I hope you don't mind me asking you this but I do have to look at the obvious before taking a closer look at what may or may not be going on.
David
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Raymond
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| david hobbs wrote: | | Do you like to keep the windows open especially at night |
Hang on! You've got me worried now. My windows are always open - even at night.
What does this have to do with anything?
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Waffle King
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Hobbs wants to know, so he can sneak in for a quickie
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david hobbs
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Work it out it's simple
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Raymond
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| Waffle King wrote: | | Hobbs wants to know, so he can sneak in for a quickie |
I think his days of climbing up drainpipes for a bit of the other are long gone.
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Kas
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Excellent stuff people.
Thank you to those taking part.
As I said there are no right or wrong answers in this.
I think though rather than Gemma repling individually she will reply to the whole. Just to make it easier.
I thought there were some excellent replies.
The thing to remember is to build up a relationship with the person.
Don't hit them with loads of questions to start with.
Even if you are eager to find out something.
In this situation it doesn't matter as you know Gemma will reply.
In the real world you have to tread very carefully.
Too strong and there won't reply. Too weak and they might think you don't take them seriously.
Gemma will reply again.
Think about your assumptions and think about how to glean more information. She will open up if you direct the correct questions.
Don't just go on the information that you have so far.
Thanks again for joining in!
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Raymond
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I'm interested to see where this experiement is leading.
There's more to this than just getting people chatting.
You're a sly one Kas!
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meiah
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| Gemma wrote: | Hello, My name is Gemma Horwell,
A friend of mine has given me your details. I hope you dont mind me contacting you but I was told you may be able to help me?
I feel a little embarrassed talking about this but think I will go out of my mind if I dont ask for some sort or assistance or clarity.
I moved in to my nice new flat about a month ago. Its brand new and everything is lovely but strange things have started happening in the last couple of weeks.
I hear odd noises during the night that I cant explain, rattling and scraping noises. I have seen doors open and close on their own accord.
On a few occasions during the night I have woken abbruptly, it feels like there is somebody in the room with me. Its really quite scary!!
Last week a friend stayed over,she said she saw a strange light in the hallway.
Then yesterday I was speaking to my new neighbour who said the flats are built on the site of an old hospital. It was derelict for years and was meant to be haunted!
Sorry If I sound like I am being daft, but I'm rather unnerved and just dont know what to do. Can you help?
Regards Gemma
Flat 19
Suffolk House
East Street
Chester |
Hi Gemma,
Firstly, please don't worry, you are not daft.
There could be many explanations for this, and not necessarily paranormal. You are just getting accustomed to a new place, with its own individual noises, which are more noticeable at night.
I hope you don't mind me asking, but when you first looked around the flat, did it feel lovely and welcoming? The sort of place where you would love to live?
What you have experienced coudl have a "normal" explanation, and these are often the best place to start.
Did you ever experience waking up in the night before you moved there?
Have you checked to make sure that the doors are not moved by draughts?
Try not to let the history of the site bother you. In the UK, many places have had several lives before becoming the site of our homes, and very few turn out to have "paranormal" activity.
I am glad you felt you could contact me, and will be happy to dicuss this furtehr with you on the phone. Unfortunatley, I do not knwo anyone close to where you live who could visit you in person, but I will gladly make some enquiries on your behalf, with you permission.
Reagrds
Meiah
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Lilly
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Hi Gemma, sometimes wooden furniture contracts when the temperature at night goes down,and of course all sounds are magnified at night.
If the flat is brand new,then the building is probably still 'settling' . Have you tried turning on a light when you hear these noises? and checking if they stop.
There isn't a building anywhere that hasn't been built on the site of another building at some time in history.
there's no need to be embarrassed about this ,you're not the first to have these happenings. If these noises worry you you could contact the local spiritualist church to see if there is any paranormal activity.
I could put you in touch with your nearest one,and they could help you understand what is going on.
please keep us posted ,and don't be shy about asking for help. Most of our members experience this sort of thing quite often.
[Have we passed the test,Kas?]
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david hobbs
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Kas only responds to the name Gemma.
Worrying really!!!!!
I went to his wedding.
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Lilly
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| david hobbs wrote: | Kas only responds to the name Gemma.
Worrying really!!!!!
I went to his wedding. |
Oh! thats nothing..My d.i.l.'s brother and wife [who live opposite me],are nicknamed Rolly and Jim. The wife is ''Jim''
When My son got married,they sent a telegram- read out at the wedding breakfast-- from their cat. they're lovely people-really!
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david hobbs
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Well Lilly it's the Isle of Wight
What do you expect?
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Lilly
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| david hobbs wrote: | Well Lilly it's the Isle of Wight
What do you expect? |
I believe in the saying; ''like attracts like''
Is that why you frequent the Island David...hmmm hmmm?
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david hobbs
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No Lilly I come hoping to get an interview with David Icke.
Now that we are totaly under the control of Brussels it will be interesting to see if his predictions come true.
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david hobbs
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Sorry
Back to Gemma.
Is she going to get back in touch or just vanish the way that so many other worried people do when you ask them a few questions?
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Kas
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She's staying at a friends house for a couple of days to get away from it.
I think she's coming back this afternoon.
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david hobbs
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Hello Gemma.
I was thinking about you today and thought that I would get back in touch to see how things are with you.
I hope that your visit with your friend was good.
David
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Raymond
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| david hobbs wrote: | Hello Gemma.
I was thinking about you today
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Don't be taken in by Hobbs Gemma! He was touching himself inappropriately when he was thinking about you.
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mark
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raymond!!
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Raymond
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Oui?
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swanlady
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| Raymond wrote: | | david hobbs wrote: | Hello Gemma.
I was thinking about you today
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Don't be taken in by Hobbs Gemma! He was touching himself inappropriately when he was thinking about you. |
Ewwwww caught out David
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david hobbs
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Thing is it's true.
Sorry gemma
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david hobbs
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I think Gemma has joined the Jehova's.
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Waffle King
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I didn't see the accident
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