Ares
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Views on SatanicsWhat are your views on satanics? I am just curious to what you think of them.
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Raymond
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Hello Ares, first of all, welcome to the group. In all honesty I have only ever met one person who claimed to be a Satanist.
I never really believed her claims though. She seemed more of a mis-guided goth to me.
I have a copy of The Satanic Bible and though I've never read it cover to cover I have dipped into it over the years and I have to say what I've read seems like common sense to me.
I'd like to learn more about Satanism actually because as a Witch it's something I'm often accused of doing, which is ridiculous becuse we don't accept the existance of an 'all evil one'.
Satan is a Christian concept and we don't accept any Christian teachings.
Are you a Satanist Ares? I'd love to learn more from you if you are.
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Ares
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I am a satanist, but I am always open for discussion. The reason why I became one was because as a child I have always felt a calling towards the darkness. Now I am not evil or anything. I have always felt my place in the darkness.
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Raymond
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I can relate to that. Witches also feel at home in the darkness but for the sake of balance we also like to keep a foot in the light.
I look forward to picking your brains Ares.
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Ares
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We belive in creation and destruction an equal balance that keeps the universe in balance.
The important thing to remember in Satanism is that the spells we use are binding, meaning if anyone does not know. The spells are permanent when placed. There is no way to reverse the spell. There has been many who think Satanism makes them look cool, and think that they can do whatever they want, and they end hurting themselves. If I could give any important advice make sure you are responsible with doing any kind of spells.
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Raymond
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Very wise words. I don't often work with binding spells myself. I would have to be totally convinced in my own mind that a person deserved that level of work.
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Ares
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I like to do any kind of binding spells in a group.
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Raymond
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I know what you mean, but like all things in life, group work has it's pro's and cons.
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Ares
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Yes, you are exactly right. You do have problems with group work. I am more into the studying satanism then casting spells, but I also study other things then just satanism of course.
The thing which causes satanism to be frown upon is it being associated with Satan and everyone backlashes aganist us saying that we are evil and only do harm to others, which is not true, but you do have the few who use spells to harm people.
There is no three fold rule in Satanism, which would come as a surprise to many who are used to praticing Wicca. We believe that for every destruction there is a creation. So technically being bad has it purposes as long as you remind approiate with your intentions, like causing a car crash, that would be bad of course, but like causing someone to trip that is okay. As long as the person is responsibile with their actions everything is fine, if not then it will come back to get them.
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david hobbs
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Interesting conversation. I have never met anyone who claimed to be a Satanist before and I look forward as does Raymond to learning more about it.
Oddly enough last night I was working against a "black majician".
I'm not prejuduced though I will have a go at anyone 
Thanks for being open with us because that is something I think we all appreciate.
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david hobbs
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Ares.
A question just popped into my mind.
You have a philosophy of destruction and reconstructio/rebirth etc.
Sort of anyway.
Why then do you do spells which cannot be broken.
Does that not go against your beliefs?
It means you have created an immutable.
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Raymond
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| Ares wrote: | | There is no three fold rule in Satanism, which would come as a surprise to many who are used to praticing Wicca. |
Ah yes well, One thing that gets me into a lot of trouble with others of my ilk is the fact that I abandoned the law of threefold return many years ago.
If I wanted childish dogma I would have become a christian.
I also gave up Wicca a long time ago as well. Well that's not strictly true, obviously there are still elements of what I do that are very Wiccan (it would be hard to completely get away from it), but I try not to be bound by the teachings of Gerald Gardner.
I agree with you about things returning. I struggle with the concept of Karma as well.
As far as I'm concerned, so long as I am convinced in my own mind that what I am doing is right, that's good enough for me.
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Ares
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| david hobbs wrote: | Ares.
A question just popped into my mind.
You have a philosophy of destruction and reconstructio/rebirth etc.
Sort of anyway.
Why then do you do spells which cannot be broken.
Does that not go against your beliefs?
It means you have created an immutable. |
No, it does not go aganist my philosphy. In satanism spells are binding, but I pratice spells that not binding. I don't only focus on satanism. I also pratice aspects of Wicca as well. Why did you go aganist a black majician ?
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david hobbs
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So really then you choose which way you are going to work according to the circumstances.
That must be better than being stuck with just one system.
I will put a piece in the investigations section about the black magician ASAP.
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Samjaza
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The Satanists I have met, and i've met quite a few, seem to have so many laws it contradicts the do whatever, enjoy the flesh experiernce. In fact they spend most of their time convincing themselves they're more ethical and moral than christians.
My time is short.... good topic though.
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