david hobbs
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VibrationsI often wonder why some "spiritual people" refer to things in terms of Higher or lower vibrations.
Perhaps it is a thing of words but to me it seems to be a concept that separates one thing from another, and I struggle with that.
Do we or our "souls" really evolve and move up the equivalent of the premier league table.
Mediums will tell you that the guide coming through is on a higher vibration because they can feel it.
Do we evolve or is it the natural desire to progress and never die that is at play here?
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Raymond
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It's my understanding that we do evolve. The human state is the first step, and that can be any number of 'levels' depending on how often we have to come back, then we move onto the spiritual state and within that are more levels of evolution and learning.
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meiah
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Maybe it is just literal.
Something solid vibrates at a lower rate than something energetic.
Its not a "better than" thing. Or maybe I am just being obtuse.
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Raymond
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No not 'better than' but 'higher than'.
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david hobbs
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So then the higher the vibration the purer it is.
You know at first when I began to write I thought that this vibration higher lower whatever, was a daft concept.
Sometimes though your belly tells you that something has substance.
I Think there is something here to work with.
The idea of only evolving to a finer or purer state seems wishful thinking, but in nature the physical body rots and vanishes at death. It becomes finer. Is this nature showing us in the physical what is hidden in the spiritual.
I like to think that all we can ever know is around us in nature the whole time.
We just need to take a look.
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evergreen
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I don't at all understand it David.. as I have no absolute right and wrong with this ... but I do feel different vibrations with people and spirits.... /entities they just feel different
the one thing that has made me think that vibrations can rise is that depressed begins often feels similar rather heavy and thick/dense when I tune into them while others can make me feel surrounded in a light or rapid buzzing feeling
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Raymond
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| david hobbs wrote: | | Is this nature showing us in the physical what is hidden in the spiritual. |
There is a saying in Witchcraft, "As above, so below".
The whole of the physical experience is a replica of the spiritual experience because both are part of nature.
This is why we accept reincarnation.
Flowers, trees, everything moves in a cycle, everything 'reincarnates'.
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Spirit Realm
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For me anyway the higher or lower vibration means of identifing energy within the living and deceased. For living it indicates the person's health and for the deceased their gender. But that is me only I am sure, lol.
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david hobbs
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| Spirit Realm wrote: | | For me anyway the higher or lower vibration means of identifing energy within the living and deceased. For living it indicates the person's health and for the deceased their gender. But that is me only I am sure, lol. |
Tell us a bit more.
I take it that the male has the higher vibration.
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evergreen
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 you are so cheeky David
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Raymond
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I'm sure the female has the higher vibrations when she can put the batteries in the right way.
Oooooooh crass!!!
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david hobbs
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It must be Christmas 
Crass yes but tinged with more than a little truth.
Your turn girls
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Spirit Realm
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| david hobbs wrote: | | Spirit Realm wrote: | | For me anyway the higher or lower vibration means of identifing energy within the living and deceased. For living it indicates the person's health and for the deceased their gender. But that is me only I am sure, lol. |
Tell us a bit more.
I take it that the male has the higher vibration. |
Well for me the living have a lower vibration and the deceased have a higher one. I feel that the physical being causes lower vibrations due to our emotional, physical, and spiritual health. Where as a deceased person doesn't have the phyiscal part to deal with. Telling the gender of a deceased person for me is feeling their residue of the physical life they lived here. Sorry I often do not explain well.
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Spirit Realm
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| Raymond wrote: | I'm sure the female has the higher vibrations when she can put the batteries in the right way.
Oooooooh crass!!! |
Actually the physical vibration to me feels higher when a person is not healthy and lower when they are heathly. Gender vibrations for me is only for those whom are deceased that were alive in the physical plane.
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david hobbs
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This shows that mediums have varying ways of interpreting what they are picking up. If that is so it must be a tricky thing for one medium to teach another their own particular method.
Spirit Realm calls it vibration but I know that I struggle with differentiating between the living and the dead and if I say a person has fair hair then you can bet your life that they had dark hair.
I always feel more comfortable working with energy. I seem to feel that far more easily.
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Raymond
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| david hobbs wrote: | | If that is so it must be a tricky thing for one medium to teach another their own particular method. |
That is the difference between a good teacher and a bad one.
A bad teacher will teach their way, a good teacher will teach the student how to discover their own way.
Unfortunately these days there seems to be very few of the latter around.
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david hobbs
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| Raymond wrote: | | david hobbs wrote: | | If that is so it must be a tricky thing for one medium to teach another their own particular method. |
That is the difference between a good teacher and a bad one.
A bad teacher will teach their way, a good teacher will teach the student how to discover their own way.
Unfortunately these days there seems to be very few of the latter around. |
I believe that teaching is about giving clues and not truths. Truths are individual things. A teacher should never never state what the end result should be and that is why so many who seek to develop fall by the wayside. Holistic is the way.
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Spirit Realm
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All we ever can do is to guide someone to finding out what works for them because what works for me won't work for them. I feel energy and sometimes I see outlines of Spirits but I also just get information in my head that is either validated or not. I never assume that I am always right because I am not perfect. Amen for that.
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