david hobbs
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Universal LoveIs the point of creation.
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evergreen
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of course.. its where all things meet
love is energy and if you can't feel it it just means you are not aware of it.. this energy is there ... like I said its is where all things meet...
nothing to do with loving another person that is some how very insignificant to this ...
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Waffle King
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it's also felt in the fingers and the toes i hear
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Hunter
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lol @ Waff
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david hobbs
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Funny how a word is seen.
Love in this instance is not as in falling in love but rather an energy within the universe.
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Raymond
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Or maybe just a chemical reaction in the brain. Or something we convince ourselves we should feel for the people who gave us life and/or took care of us when we were too young to do it for ourselves.
What is love anyway?
I mean all kinds of love. Love between a couple, love between a parent and child, a brother and sister.
Let's cut to chase with this one please and cut out all the sentimental crap about how you'd all happily give your lives up for the sake of your kids and all that - I've heard it.
So, what is love?
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david hobbs
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Once again you miss the point entirely.
I did say that it is not as in the falling in love category.
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mark
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love in this way is as being at a point in ones life here on earth where we acknowledge that our being is as one with ourselves and the creator,for me its hard to describe ,to put into words
when i am hassled by people and work ,things like this ,i am able to smile and see things differently ,and think i am the lucky one ,its about knowing
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wackyjacky
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Hi Mark, I agree with what you say and I understand when you say you can't put it all into words... I sometimes feel like that myself.
I do though think that in 'normal' circumstances a mother will love their child unconditionally as I do mine ( I say normally but in light of all the paedophillia in the news, I know too that a child does love their parents deep down but i do however realise that children really also love their parents conditionally.
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evergreen
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universal love is not about loving your family its more than that .. its more and yet some how so much less complicated its not about feeling and emotions .. it is an energy that creates all things equal its the energy we came from its the air we breath and the pain we feel its the constant of all constants and if we link into it consciously it can make you feel like you are floating and one with all
like I said its where all things meet
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meiah
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I think we need a new word for it.
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mark
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life is love and love is life
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wackyjacky
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Evergreen, I agree. My post was just one aspect of it that I thought of at the
time.
Mark, how about Love is what it is?  
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david hobbs
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| meiah wrote: | | I think we need a new word for it. |
I am not sure that one word would do but I do know that the word love seems to confuse.
It has more than one meaning.
I love sweets
I love my children
I love my pets
I love the sun on my back
I love you
And then there is the love without judgement or language, universal love.
If you stand in the middle of a swift running river you do not need words, you just experience.
Might just buy myself a bunch of flowers after that.
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evergreen
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:) I love that description David :)
ha no pun intended and yet there it is lol
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Raymond
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| david hobbs wrote: | | Once again you miss the point entirely. |
No, I never miss 'the point', I do, however, frequently choose to ignore them. As is the case with this thread.
I decided to ask a question of my own about love. A question that, as yet, hasn't really been answered.
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evergreen
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| Raymond wrote: | Or maybe just a chemical reaction in the brain. Or something we convince ourselves we should feel for the people who gave us life and/or took care of us when we were too young to do it for ourselves.
What is love anyway?
I mean all kinds of love. Love between a couple, love between a parent and child, a brother and sister.
Let's cut to chase with this one please and cut out all the sentimental crap about how you'd all happily give your lives up for the sake of your kids and all that - I've heard it.
So, what is love? |
that kind of emotion you are talking about it more than an emotion ...its an embedded thing.. and yet obviously not everyone feels it because not everyone can care for their offspring adequately never mind well- I think that kind of love is like a reflex... something that comes naturally ..
and before you say what about abuse.. not everyone manages to have correct reflex actions
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Raymond
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I'm not going to ask about abuse, that wasn't the point of my question.
I ask because I truly do not know what love is. I have never been 'in' love and never knowingly had anybody in love with me.
I honestly think I do not know how to love.
Of course there are people I like having around me but there is nobody in my life who I can say I want to have around me all the time.
There's nobody I can truly let my guard down with - including family, there is honestly nobody in the world I love or put before myself. Nobody.
So, as somebody who really doesn't know the definition, I ask, what is love?
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Waffle King
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Love is Love, unless you know it, you don't know what it is, the only way your question can be answered Raymond, is if you fall in love with someone, then you'll ask yourself again, and you'll know the answer, it can't be explained because every love is different and works differently, so i can tell you what i think it is, EG can tell you another and Dave can tell another one, and you'll have still have no answer, so i belive, you'll have to make your own answer, seeing as you made the question 
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wackyjacky
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Raymond said | Quote: | I have never been 'in' love and never knowingly had anybody in love with me.
I honestly think I do not know how to love.
Of course there are people I like having around me but there is nobody in my life who I can say I want to have around me all the time.
There's nobody I can truly let my guard down with - including family, there is honestly nobody in the world I love or put before myself. Nobody.
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Raymond, you're not alone in that... I've felt like that so many different times but then another day appears and I forget that I was thinking about it... for a while anyway. Then, I find myself saying the same thing to myself at another point in time, maybe a year later or it could be 2. I don't think there is an answer just that it is what it is. I do have a caring side and I love my son to bits but I can definitely see how you feel as I feel exactly the same at times.
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Hunter
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I've been happily married for 20 years so I think that this form of love is known to me !
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Raymond
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| wackyjacky wrote: | | I've felt like that so many different times but then another day appears and I forget that I was thinking about it... |
Mmmmm, it isn't something that's constantly on my mind or even something that bothers me, but like you say Wacky, from time to time it does cross my mind.
In as much as relationships are concerned, of course I've had relationships in the past. I hear people talking of being in love so much they can't imagine being without their lover - I've never felt like that. And also people seem to fall apart when their lover leaves them, in all my relationships the over-riding emotion has been one of relief when the time has come for them to go.
I have a strong 'liking' for my family, but if I'm completely honest here I think that's just because they do things for me.
I could easily imagine being without any one of my family and I don't imagine I'd be too upset.
I just don't understand this "need" for other people. I love being on my own. At least once a week I have to arrange at least one day where nobody visits and I don't have to go out. I unplug the phone and I have to spend the whole day completely alone, and if anybody disturbs that day - woe betide them! I have to do that.
My only regret is I can only do it as little as once a week.
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meiah
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This is a hard thing to explain, because like a lot of things it is not a constant.
I can say how I feel, though.
I am with a man who at times drives me potty, but hearing him laugh makes me feel amazing. He is someone I can be entirely myself with, and who I can be utterly honest with. He really does make me feel more than I am without him. He laughs at me constantly, and cuts through the persona to who I am inside.
These are all benefits to me, I know.
So, is that love?
It is not uncritical, it is not acceptance, it is not lust, nor is is a lack of judgement.
But it is something.
So how is that different to friendship? It isn't, but it is more than that. There is a strong desire for him, to protect him, to make him happy.
Its is kind of a feeling of knowing myself, and seeing something other than my ego.
That doesn't really help much, does it?
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