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| david hobbs |
Ufo's and PsychicsHaving looked at both of these subjects over the years I sometimes have difficulty seeing where one ends and the other begins.Greys walking through wall for instance. What do you think Does the paranormal run over into the realms of the Ufo? |
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| Bravo |
Well I believe both are of a scientific nature...both are as yet unknown to human science, so in that respect they could be.
Perhaps the physical world of touching and seeing and smelling is like the tip of the iceberg. Maybe we are in the 'womb' as we live our lives. The real living may yet be to come. Perhaps this is all there is and we should make the most of it. Perhaps we don't exist at all. |
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| david hobbs |
Well that's cleared that up 
Tel us about the science within paranormal. Lets get some experiments going. Wish you hadn't posted now don't you
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| Waffle King |
Re: Ufo's and Psychics
Well duh! Aliens clearly are paranormal beings like ghosts n stuff, only few ever see them (mostly hics and drunks, and some inbreeds) those hics in such are like, the mediums of the UFO/Little green men foundation of obscurity, or if you believe ghosts are transdimensional beings of the human nature, then aliens must be! i mean, who'd wanna come to Earth unless you could get away sharpish VIA a transdimentional general engine. I hope is slightly pointless Waffling helps. (or gives you a good laugh) :D |
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| david hobbs |
Re: Ufo's and Psychics
Sorry to dissapoint you Waff but actually you raise some interesting points. Are aliens and ghosts interdimentional. If so where are they for the rest of the time? |
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| Waffle King |
interesting points eh? wow, thats a first, damn my Waffling brian!
Wellll interdementioantransdiemtional beings are said to live on a fluxuation of our space time, another level/dimention to you and i, filling the same space, just not quite here, which would explain varations in the paranormal actavity in buildings, a transdiemntion rift opening, every so often, same could apply to Alien space craft, just they generate the rifts, that help them traverse dimentions/space time continumium, totally blasting E = MC2 outta the window, but thats what i think at anyrate. :D |
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| Bravo |
Well what I mean is that just because modern science as is can't explain something, doesn't mean it is not possible to be explained by science eventually. Science may one day find out what exactly ghosts etc are whether they be a creation of man, man itself or the next stage of man, or something else entirely... As far as experiments go, all I can think up I think you guys are already doing whenever you do a site visit. I assume you are recording on any and all means available. By the way I don't know if you have already, but I feel sure if you contacted some universitys they would lend you some high tech recording equipment to take with you...... |
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| Waffle King |
Everything will one day, be explained by Science or Religion, thats a fact, but personally i prefure my outlandish ideas of interdimention warp drive travel, cos its just so my way of thinking, and i'm no scientist, gimmi Christ anyday 
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| david hobbs |
You have raised some good points here. Alchemists were the scientists of their day so it seems to me that Science and paranormal or should I say mysticism are one and the same but with different techniques. Both are to me, ways of pushing the frontiers of knowledge forward. On the high tech equipement side I think that we would need someone who understands exactly what to do with it. We would not. When we investigate or work as I like to call it we work intuitively. Not very scientific. Our apparatus is our body and our instinct. A bit like dowsing if you like. I would like to have science tell me how things can disappear and reappear without human intervention. This I have seen. I would like science to tell me how I can receive psychic input leading me to a wood and to have that wood come to life. (difficult to explain). I would like science to tell me how I can be knocked to the ground by unseen forces or how I have managed to predict the future or perhaps seen someone before I have met them. I would like science to explain these thing and much,much more. I am not knocking science I am saying that I know of no apparatus that can be ready for a totally unexpected event. Then how do you measure and weigh it. Science has already come up with ideas about paranormal events. The scientists are not mediums or psychics. It is like me trying to explain infinity. |
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| Bravo |
Au contraire my good man ;) A good many universities do indeed study the paranormal with a good deal less scepticism than you might imagine. The equipment, they would either show you how to use it, or send one of their students to tag along with you as an observer if the equipment required special training or knowledge. The more methods you employ of recording, the better...you cannot gain too much knowledge in my opinion. |
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| david hobbs |
It is an idea. We have done filming with a media university but that was to train students about program making techniques. I would like to know which universities you refer to. Perhaps it would be interesting to meet up with them. Things have moved on it seems. Kas has done a course in investigation and I do think that a team is incomplete without a trained investigator and an historian. We have only had that benefit on about three occasions and oddly enough it made the job easier. They confirmed what we picked up so then we could move on to the next thing. It is not scepticism that I find the problem. I have never worried about sceptics. In fact I welcome sceptical input as a valuable balance. The problem comes with trying to turn it on upon request although we have never been bothered by that either but on some invests you feel as if you are there as performing monkeys. |
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| Bravo |
I know that feeling. As a black belt, you quite often get people who think you are some form of entertainer ready to nut trees etc just for their amusement...that and the 'oh I know someone who did erm Tae Kwon Do, he lives in WorraBorraGorra in Australia and his name is Bob, do you know him?' .... Anyway, back on topic: Yes, and no. |
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| david hobbs |
As a matter of fact I do know Bob from WorraBorraGorra in Australia Not only is he a black belt but his psychism is renowned throught the continent. Any way back to topic. Is that yes and no you do know the universities who carry out these studies? |
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| Bravo |
iirc the university of Leeds has a rather large paranormal research section.
I feel sure there would be some closer to your neck of the woods though, I'll have a google around later. |
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| Bravo |
I found this list:
http://www.spr.ac.uk/resdir_UniUK.html |
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| evergreen |
I met Bob the other day actually he was doing an exhibition of tree felling they are talking about how it would be a more environmentally friendly zen like way to knock out the world heritage areas here... |
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| evergreen |
I know that as an medical intuitive it has been heavily suggested I get a real degree before practising as I wouldn't be taken seriously ... it does seem to me that there is still a misconception that energy healers and mystic workers (can't find a good term  ) are all shoddy money makers.
IT is actually one area that can be proven very easily.. If someone can see into your body and pick up an illness they have no prior knowledge of then they must be able to do it ... isn't' that how science works ?? I do understand that is makes it difficult when we dont' really understand how we can do it it is just something that we do- very natural ... I guess science won't really be happen until they prove either how it is done or how it is frauded??? I do know that one of my biggest clientele are from the hospital staff (as in the doctors) .. oo I love that !!!! now after that rave I am going to have a quick look at that link Bravo.. thanks |
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| Bravo |
Just bringing this list to the second page in case it gets missed, it might be useful (or not). |
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| evergreen |
Taken from the link Bravo...
Sheffield University Address: Triceratops, Dumney Lane, Great Leighs, Chelmsford, Essex CM3 1PE Web: http://moebius.psy.ed.ac.uk/~melw/ Researcher: Melvyn J. Willin Areas:Music and the Paranormal: mediumistic channelling of music; Musical targets in ganzfeld experiments; Hypnosis as an enhancement of musical performance; Auditory hallucinations of music. Auditory hallucinations of music...??? is that when you see music.. ?? |
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| evergreen |
okay I found this site that deals with questions to see if you have this condition yourself...
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dondeg/auditory.htm it appears that they think it is a condition you have when stoned... ?? I can't find any real defination
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| david hobbs |
Love the purple. Can't read it though 
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| evergreen |
okay this is toooo much!!!! first the compaint about my green now my purple .. *storms out of the thread* I can read them fine on my screen they most likey come up a bit different on other screens... how is the olive David??? :D oh and why the colours if we can't read them
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| Bravo |
lol I think it is a man thing evergreen, men don't see colours anywhere near as well as women do. There apparently is no such thing as colour blindness in women, where in men it is quite common. Also, different monitors (and different graphics cards) display colours in different ways, so what you see on your computer may be very different to what Dave sees on his computer. The colours are really mostly used for highlighting certain parts of a post rather than colouring a post entire. I hope that clears it up a little, Evergreen, I know things like this can be quite frustrating when you don't see what the other person sees. In a way, it is somewhat of a gender disability from which men suffer ;) |
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| evergreen |
thanks Bravo now you are now offically on the very sweet man list..
Yes I have new computer some spiffy thing I have no understanding about and the monitor is easy to look at.. I'll stick to clear no problem at all :) and as far as men not seeing colour hehe that is a very good suck up thanks Bravo... :D |
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