Before any of you start shouting at your monitors I'm not talking about beating them with a stick or anything, I mean just a smack on the wrist or the bottom when they have misbehaved.
Personally I don't have a problem with it. A smack on the back of the hand or the top of the leg is sometimes the only way of letting a child know (especially very young children) they have done wrong.
Until the age of six or seven children have no sense of reasoning. They can't make the connection between thier actions and thier outcomes.
So how else do you let a child know it is doing something dangerous or unacceptable?
How do you let a cat or dog know thier behaviouor is wrong? They have no sense of reasoning either.
As children get older there are more effective ways to punish them and smacking is probably no longer needed but I definately think younger children should be smacked when it is deserved.
You can always tell when parents don't smack thier children. The children always back-chat and are generally far too cocky.
I was smacked as a child and at 36 years of age I still don't swear or back-chat to my parents.
Kas
Smack.
As a recipient of the belt as well as the odd clip round the ear.
(yes i was a naughty child, i remember once painting my Nan's white toy poodle with bright green gloss paint), i think the odd smack on the bum when necessary is ok.
The thing is with a severe punishment is that it only needs to be dealt once. After that it's used as a threat and has the same effect.
Maybe i shouldn't comment as i do not have kids of my own but the behavior of most children these days is unacceptable. Tis the fault of the parents though. Not the children.
Remember the saying "Be seen and not heard?" doesn't really apply now does it?
Waffle King
Being 17, i can safely say, give the blighters a smack, that way the next generation won't be as troubled and pathetic as the one i'm in
david hobbs
Waffle King wrote:
Being 17, i can safely say, give the blighters a smack, that way the next generation won't be as troubled and pathetic as the one i'm in
Yes but you can change that Waff so give yourself a smack.
That's not, some smack by the way.
laura
[quote="Kas"
Maybe i shouldn't comment as i do not have kids of my own but the behavior of most children these days is unacceptable. Tis the fault of the parents though. Not the children.[/quote]
can't completely agree wth the last statement kas.... society is also to blame...it's not all parent fault.... though i agree if a child is corrected and given the right grounding then they are more likely to make the right choices. but... that said.... i completely agree with smacking certainly when a child is too young to reason with.... my two girls have had smacks when needed.. and they are not damaged for life by it!!...my brother however opted for the no smacking rule and everytime his son is naughty(which is often) he is sat down and lectured........ ever seen a child switch off ...the momen he is spoken too..... and needless to say..... major brat!!
Waffle King
i'll have you know i'm a well mannered young man who doesn't par-take in what the yobs do thank you very much
laura
[quote="Kas"
Maybe i shouldn't comment as i do not have kids of my own but the behavior of most children these days is unacceptable. Tis the fault of the parents though. Not the children.[/quote]
can't completely agree wth the last statement kas.... society is also to blame...it's not all parent fault.... though i agree if a child is corrected and given the right grounding then they are more likely to make the right choices. but... that said.... i completely agree with smacking certainly when a child is too young to reason with.... my two girls have had smacks when needed.. and they are not damaged for life by it!!...my brother however opted for the no smacking rule and everytime his son is naughty(which is often) he is sat down and lectured........ ever seen a child switch off ...the momen he is spoken too..... and needless to say..... major brat!!
Waffle King
Smacking is a contol fail safe, i've been smacked now look at me, in by ten, no girls in the house and milk back in the fridge after it's been used, very rarely do i not do what i'm told, it's the firm hand thats done it i tells yah......
evergreen
Waff any mother woul dbe proud to call you son....
As far as smacking goes I think yes it is okay.... not prolonged hitting that is a whole other bed of nails..
it is against the law to smack a child in Tasmania.... for ALL parents.. stupid I tell you stupid
Waffle King
She is proud to call me son, other then the fact i've no GCSEs and was not so long ago sacked, otherwise it's all gravy lol.
But i see the smacking as a good thing, and when my future sprogs (if any) are out there waffling to the world, chances are they're gunna get smacks what ever age they are if they do something wrong in my books anyway.
I've always loved that saying "You're never to old for a smack" love it!
swanlady
sorry guys but i have a different approach to smacking kids.
I can only go on my own children.
I don,t and never have smacked any of my kids. Its not that i don,t believe in giving kids a tap when they are being naughty. Its just that with my own children. They are very well behaved wherever i take them, and as old or young as my children are, they have the greatest respect for other people which i have instilled in them since they were all babies. They are great kids and very gentle natured.
When they were babies and their brains were like sponges absorbing everything in life . that was when i taught them.
If and when the temper tantrums came which they did.lol. I would distract them and they learnt the word NO very early. No is No, Yes is yes and there is no maybes with them. I find that they understand better that way instead of getting mixed messages.
Trystan is 28 now and we are like best friends, but 1st i am his mum and we have a great love and bond for each other. He has the greatest respect for people but don,t take fools gladly. He is also very straight speaking, you know exactly where you stand with Trystan. He is also very close to his dad, my husband. If Trystan is going anywhere or doing anything, we always get a phone call to ask if we want to join him at the cinema, restarant, rugby and football matches in cardiff.
My twins are 11. Charlotte is very much Trystan,s double from when he was young. She is so gentle natured. tidies her room, washes the dishes without having to be asked, comes everywhere with me in the car. Is popular in school with friends and teachers alike. Will help anyone. can take her anywhere and have no worries about her being naughty. She is a beautiful little girl. and very much a daddys and mummys girl.
Thomas ,my other twin has Autism , bu is still very gentle natured, he can speak very clearly but has limited understand of whats being said. he is still very well behaved and polite even with his Autism. and he is so loving to his family. He is never cheeky or naughty. If he does something i don,t approve off, i tell him not to do it, and that is the end of it, he will stop and do something else.
Thebaby of my family. our Jade . well, what can i say. she has red hair and a temper to match She is only two, three tomorrow actually, and is still at the learning age of the do,s and don,t in life.
The other day i was talking to a friend of mine on thephone and she was drinking her juice and burped very loudly which my friend could hear I looked at Jade sternly to let her know not to do it, but like all babies her age, you tell her not to do something and they do it all the more, especially when they think it is funny. In the end i just ignored her and carried on talking on the phone, and she stopped burping.
She will learn like the rest of my children what is acceptable behaviour and what is,nt acceptable. She is a lovely little girl who,s smile lights any dark room, And her gentle nature is starting to shine through with lots of love and cuddles and our quiet time where we just sit and cuddle while we watch her programmes on tv.
When my oldest son got married five years ago. At the reception, i was approached by one of the wedding guests from the brides side of the family who i had never met before. He asked me if he could have a quiet word out in the hallway. When out in the hallway. he said to me that he just had to tell me that he had never come across such a loving and close family before in his life. that he could see the love my husband and myself had for our children, and our children for us in return and that it was a real pleasure to be a guest at the wedding of such a close and loving family. I was a little embarrassed but very prould of the fact that yes we are a very close family.
Don,t get me wrong. i don,t smack my children but i am very strict in their upbringing. i teach my children to have respect while still being their own unique person. That if they are right, then they must say they are right, but if they are wrong, then they must stand there and accept that they are wrong. always be truthful and honest. and they will never go far wrong.
ok i,ll stop waffling now.
Raymond
You obviously know how to raise children properly Swanny, so many don't.
I would also say that you've probably been very lucky with your kids.
I know families where all the kids are like yours but there's one who, for some reason, goes a but wrong.
I'm not talking about beating the hell out of kids but I do think smacking is an effective and viable form of punishement.
Bravo
I can speak from both sides of the water, as a child I have experienced being kicked full on in the guts, punched, thrown against walls which were already covered in my own blood etc
That kind of smacking is not on.
A clip round the ear, or slapped legs, as a behaviour correction, is one tool in an arsenal. Though I do think it is a weapon that should be called on with great infrequency...as the more it is used, the lesser the result of its use. It also teaches smacking as an answer, and thus recreates itself in the classroom.
The threat of it is worth far more than the reality of it. Far more.
meiah
I smacked my children, and it hurt me far more than it did them. It was the shock, not the slap that did the job.
The naughty stair never really had an impact.
I found "just tell me why you did this" was a far greater discouragement, because I asked them to think about why they felt it was Ok to do what they had done. There was sometimes a good reason.
I guess if it is not done in temper, then Ok. I have seen mothers wallop their children because they have no other way to express their frustration or crossness. That is not fine.
david hobbs
I only ever smacked one of the kids once.
I found it was far more fun to bury them up to their necks near an ant hill and cover their heads with honey.
It never did them any harm in fact people used to pass by and comment on how sweet they looked.
Raymond
Oh yes, even though I support smacking I do think psycological torture is a much better route, especially for older kids and teenagers.
Whenever my 16 year old sister gets a bit too mouthy I simply hide her mobile phone.
I finally let her have it back when she's throwing rope over the beams.
swanlady
Now don't go giving me ideas David please. I may not smack my children but an Ant hill sounds very interesting and i wouldn't oppose to it. I believe my children would have great fun.