Shadow People

david hobbs · Shadow People

Well I could't think of a place to put this topic so here it is.

I have made it Stiky, which means that it will remain at the top of the board until made "un-stiky"? (cue Bravo to mug me off)

So do tell us about shadow people.

Bravo

Who, or what, are shadow people?

Raymond

That's what I'd like to know Bravo. We'll have to wait for Shadow Pheonix to come back on, he seems to be the expert.

With the time difference he should be waking up just about,......now.

ShadowPhoenix

lol Raymond how'd you guess?

I have my experiences written on another forum so I'll just sorta copy past them so I don't have to retype everything.

I ish lazy today.

wackyjacky

I can't wait SP... PS, I'm lazyish most days

Raymond

Looking forward to it SP.

ShadowPhoenix

The following happened Feb 16...was I dreaming? Hallucinating? I was in a lot of pain, but here is one story.

Today I had my horrible cramps which I for whatever odd reason seem to get twice a year at the same time every year, I went to bed for a nap and when I woke up I had them, but in the dark I looked to one side of me against the light colored walls I believe I saw SEVERAL shadow people 2 of them were close to the bed on either side of me with their...hands? on my stomach and chest then a 3rd wiggled it's fugliness up to my face then the pain became so paralyzing I really felt as though I couldn't move I couldn't even make a sound..Then I saw light colored individuals keeping the rest of them at bay.

I was attempting to call someone into the room but I couldn't. I tried using telepathy to tell my Spirit Guides to bring in an entity of light to help and I think I heard a "Yes." but within a few minutes I saw a light moving around the room and a couple of the shadows disappeared as it moved towards them...then 2 of my friends burst in the room and flipped on the light and when the light turned on I was looking towards the ceiling and saw a white feather and it fell on my belly, and then my friends said said, "Hey, we were just coming to check on you we felt like we...Oh my gosh it's so cold in here I can see your breath." and when I exhaled I could actually see my breath...BUT the heater was on the whole time there were no open windows. The pain immediately began to subside after that but I still feel SO drained.

Raymond

SP, you say you get these pains twice a year at the same time. How long have you been getting the pains?

ShadowPhoenix

About 6 or 7 years now...why?

Raymond

This might seem a really obvious question but have you ever had these pains checked out by a doctor?

evergreen

ShadowPhoenix

No, I haven't actually, but my mother and her mother and her mother had them, but there was never anything 'wrong'. I'm the first male in the family to have them (I wonder if it's something inherited) to have them it seems.

evergreen

now i am going to ask something very stupid ... what is a shadow person exactly .. where do they come from .. I feel they are the darker sides of us.. or persons we know .. but I honestly don't' have a real clue

Raymond

I hate not knowing what things are!!!

evergreen

ShadowPhoenix

Well, you see, that's just it. No one really knows what they are or where they are from. In my studies I developed a hypothesis that they do have 'shelter' so to speak on a different plane of existence...possibly somewhere on the lower astral....and have noticed their activity being more prominent around a full moon.

Raymond

Shit!

I've just got a splitting headache come on and I never get headaches, never!

Alright, I'm not going to get carried away. The room is dark and I'm staring at a monitor. It's probably just that.

evergreen

its just so happens the last time this occurred with Bronyhr (my 13 year old) it was a full moon and I remember because I had done a ceremony sow as tire cause I had gone to bed later then usual as I can't sleep with full moon often ...

I have seen what I termed shadow people around others (clients) .. dark figures that look like they are black shadow.... the ones I have seen were all during mediumship events and were brought through as suicide victims... ... though I feel these are different to what you are talking about SP

ShadowPhoenix

evergreen

Raymond

It's a New Moon tonight. New and Full Moons tend to effect me in strange ways - maybe that explains the headache.

I don't think the lower relams are necessarily a bad place. Many people equate them with the christian version of hell.
I disagree with that. I see them more as places people go after death who just aren't that advanced yet to progress to the higher relams.

evergreen

yeah I'd agree with that I don't think they are bad I think they are just different... so head ache still there

Raymond

No, I just went out for some air and I've put some lights on. It is rather dark in here. Bad for the eyes looking at a computer in the dark.

ShadowPhoenix

No, I don't think they are necessarily bad place...but they can be dangerous, then again so can any plane of existence. I've not seen a section for it, so I'll just ask it here, anyone ever astral travel?

Raymond

I've astral travelled all my life, even before I knew what it was called. I just thought everybody did it when I was a kid.

I've never had a bad experience though, well I did once but I've never seen a shadow person on my travels.

evergreen

start a new topic cause this is a sticky and when we go into a new area we lose the first one we were chatting about generally lol so just post a new topic in this section SP

Waffle King

Ok, for once i'm technically speechless, an achivement in itself i might add, but i'm still quite confused, over all this "shadow" label, shadows are an extension of our physical forms caused by light from the sun, lamp shade, moonlight, and plenty of other things, and SP and Evergreen, you've said that it was nightish time and at the full moon, i'm presuming indoors, so how could the shadows be cast? or even why? it makes no sence and some more informtion would be welcome

Raymond

Well that's the thing Waff, nobody really knows what they are - a bit like orbs.

I've heard a lot of people complain over the years about shadow people and most of them seem to follow a similar theme.

Your guess is as good as anybody else's.

evergreen

are things like goblins included in this "category"

Waffle King

But even "orbs" have logical conclusions! dust on the lens etc etc etc, but this to me is totally illogical and i can't make any thing of it, so it slightly scares me

evergreen

well obviously Waff.. it has to be seen to believed and that is as it should be

Waffle King

But how can i belive in something i can't make heads or tails of EG hunny?Everything has a logic everything, even ghosts and spirits can be explained logicaly, but these shadow people it just doesn't make sence to me, maybe i'm just blind to it, just like Dooplegangers

Raymond

Waffle King

Logically speaking, Ghost and Spirits are a metaformatic extension of a persons "soul" which basically means, it's an extension of the mind in a shape or form outside the norm, seeing as human beings are creatures that have a "Mind" so to speak, and with a fact that we only use 10% of our brain at anyone given time, it's perfectally logical that after death or mind may live on over something we have no control over

evergreen

so can a shadow form be this too Waff?

Waffle King

I dont think so, because as i said early, it's a shadow, i don't have any control over mine, mentally or subconciously, it just exists because i exist, and by George i think i've got my level of understanding

Raymond

evergreen

Waffle King

what i mean by control as in i can't make it move unless i move my arm or leg or any other object of my personage, it just exists in the light

Raymond

I think he means the physical shadow EG, not the spiritual one.

evergreen

oh for gods Sake Waff.. had me going ... LOL

Waffle King

Sorry EG hunny, i'm not used to speaking to other people about my mind, so usually i assume eveyone automaticly knows what i'm on about

Raymond

evergreen

Raymond!!!! Big Grin

Waffle King

ShadowPhoenix

I really wasn't aware that everyone had a shadow self....

Raymond

ShadowPhoenix

and where might I find said article?

Raymond

It's a book by John J. Coughlin. Have a look on Amazon, that's where I got mine.

ShadowPhoenix

Alright 2nd post of one of my scattered about journals:
This, BTW, was the night of February 19th I believe.

Last night I had another encounter with a dark figure I opened my eyes it was closer to the wall but began coming closer and I immediately began my shielding technique and told it that it may look at us but not touch...I looked around the room and there was another at the foot of the bed...I am now more curious as to why they are here, are they systematically attacking me? Did someone send them, and who? Or are they there for my roomate who was sleeping in the same bed...he does seem to have a good bit of negativity, then again so do I at times...I suppose I should be gathering some banishing supplies together, as my energy for protection may only last so long, normally I would've sent them away by now, but for some reason I have become fascinated in studying their behavior, the way they move, their intentions, etc. I felt a generally friendly atmosphere around them this time, could it be they want some sort of exchange? That is what I feel as though they want...but for what...I shall post more here as I discover more.

Raymond

I definately think these beings are attracted to you for a reason. I've no idea what but their visits to seem to be frequent.

I think you should try to learn as much about them as possible SP with a view to helping others with similar experiences.

This really is fascinating.

ShadowPhoenix

I honestly don't know why I've seen them and do see them as frequently as I do...well now...I know why, but I do not wish to say as I've summoned them back for my own purposes. Before, it was a mystery to me...but since I'm able to use them to my advantage I've begun doing so. Perhaps I'm just an evil person...oh well.

mark

i have seen severall shadow beings ,they usually are tall ,and i dont see them for that long just seconds,i did once see one in my bathroom that was a lot shorter,i dont what they are or whosometimes i have see 4 at once which may be unusual as well

Raymond

ShadowPhoenix

Yes, I can and that's actually currently what I am doing...results can be quite devastating...for them.

Raymond

Can you send one to a person without them hurting the person or causing any harm?

ShadowPhoenix

No, not normally. At least I've never done such a thing. They are the perfect weapon to bring people down...they've so much negativity about them. I only use them for this purpose in the final stage of my anger and wrath. Their primary function is to feed on energy...thing zombies of the astral plane...at least the lesser powerful ones. Like I said, there are several types. At least that's what I've categoriezed them as..

ShadowPhoenix

Oh and Ray...it's not something I would do lightly....I'm just sayin'.

Raymond

Oh right. I was going to ask you to send one to me but if they're really that nasty I think we'll skip that.

ShadowPhoenix

They get even nastier if you have a job for them to do...especially if it involves wreaking havoc on someone. I've noted that I can get them to do things such as putting someone's health in decline, disrupting their sleep, cause suicidal thoughts...the list goes on that's just some of the meaner things they do...you don't even know the half of it. Hence the reason I only use them as a last resort. I've got in my house right now...probably about 50-70 going after just one person. Needless to say, things aren't going so well for him. I'd thought about calling them off...but until people learn whatever lesson I'm teaching...I like to see them squirm.

Raymond

I like your style.

Hey, do me a favour. Have a look in 'This is my story' section and read thread titled 'Sometimes you just don't know all the answers' and tell me what you think.

Waffle King

So shadow people can be controled by physical beings, this piques my interest, i wonder, i know you've said you can erm "use" them to destroy lives and make people kill themselves, i wonder, can you reverse that principal? make them do good things like i dunno, feed the world?

ShadowPhoenix

Not likeley WK...They are, for all intents and purposes, used for a negative outcome. Most types of shadows are comprised purely of negative energy. Whether they are souls of people who died with so much negativity in their hearts that they were unable to 'move on' or whether they are just residual energy. The simple fact of the matter is that they are completely negative, I'm afraid.

Waffle King

call me Waff, WK makes me feel like a Mcdonalds menu item

so they're technically evil then, darkness rules them and thus provides?

ShadowPhoenix

I suppose you could say that, but there are those that are simply residual energy from a person's life which aren't necessarily 'evil'.

evergreen

so you can use them.. that is interesting... if you are able to use them then why are they attacking you SP ?

ShadowPhoenix

I would suspect, that it might have something to do with the manner in which they were used in the past.

Raymond

This is fascinating.

I'm a great believer in balance. For anything to exsist it has to have an opposite. I wonder what the shadow people's opposite are - 'light people'???

Maybe if you can control shadow people SP you might be able to control light people as well. Maybe you should keep a eye open for them and work with them to do your positive work.

Just an idea.

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evergreen

everything is us... thats why I am god

david hobbs

evergreen

if you create your own reality then you can create it surely ...lol

ShadowPhoenix

Raymond

Do tell...

david hobbs

ShadowPhoenix

Hmm...I never believed them to actually exist, even when I first began working with them, sure I'd heard of them before, but I did not believe in their existence. I'd heard they were the spirits of the deceased who were so attached to life that they couldn't fully move on and/or they simply had such an extreme amount of negativity at the time of their death. It wasn't until after I actually began seeing results with them that I believed what was really going on...even then though, it was difficult for me to fathom, to be perfectly honest, even now I still sometimes feel crazy because I constantly doubt my experiences...but when people I use them on to whatever end experience what I want them to...or more recently someone who doesn't even believe in these kinds of things figures out what is happening to them and why, I know something is really happening.

Waffle King

Do yah have such an example SP? i'm semi-captivated at the moment, so press the knowledge in before i'm sectioned later this week please

Raymond

Story of your life Waff, always with a semi.

Waffle King

Why fly at full mast, when you''ve got half mast, at least that way no one has to many hopes!

ShadowPhoenix

Examples of...? How I have and can use them? Or the results of having used them?

Raymond

oooooh, I definately want to hear about some of the results!

ShadowPhoenix

When I first started out learning/using them, I was in a coven...people who for some reason had offered me an invitation, BEFORE I ever even considered such a thing, but after I'd found that BoS. The high priestess of the coven decided she'd utilize my ability of her own personal use. The people they were used on...well, I THINK I stated somewhere in here that people who were married developed severe marital problems resulted in divorce and general unhappiness...there were a few...deaths...suicides. However, she painted an ugly picture about them and actually made me believe they were deserving of such fates. So, I went through the rituals with them and once I started seeing things happening that were being focused on, I quickly became a believer. After I realized she was only using them because she just disliked the 'targets' I destroyed and/or took most of the tools used in the rituals and decided to teach her a lesson via the same way she was 'teaching others'. I think I may have lost control of them at some point as I didn't expect it to go as far as it did. The poor woman went insane...and is still in a looney bin to this day. It's not really an interesting thing, they destroy...nothing more.

Raymond

All the same, a very useful tool to have your disposal.

It sounds a bit like this High Priestess was a bit of a nut-case to begin with (as so many of them are). Maybe the shadow people just helped her over the edge.

ShadowPhoenix

You just don't know how hard I giggled at what you just said...but at her at the same time. She was rather...eccentric? Not sure if that's the word I want to use, but I think they definately helped her over the edge...and down to the rocky bottom.

It IS a useful tool, but a dangerous one. I can still lose control of them at any given moment...so even my power or technique is not perfect...there is always the risk of a mistake or even a backfire, where they would turn on me. Currently, I've offered them a...mutual agreement of sorts. Teach this person a lesson and get him off my back and they have access to his energy/negativity...whichever it is they want. I just make certain any shields they have are disposed of. I suppose you could say I can get the power of a curse with the effort of a darkening at times...

Raymond

Is it something you would use over something trivial, say, a lover dumped you,. or do you only use it when somebody has seriously pissed you off?

ShadowPhoenix

I'm usually rather reserved when it comes to using them. I would never use them for anything trivial...no one deserves the fate they CAN bring over something small. I have 4 levels of anger which would never even consider using them until the 4th; Ticked, Angry, Furious, LIVID.

david hobbs

It would seem that there are many types of shadow people as you can tell from the various descriptions in this thread.

I have come across three.

The first was when I was active in the elemental majic field and I awoke one night to see a robed figure completely black standing at the foot of my bed. The air was absolutely alive with a buzzing static electricity sound and the atmosphere was tangible. I watched it for a while and it slowly faded and vanished.

Again about a year later and in a different home I awoke to see a similar figure standing next to my bed. I whipped back the sheets thinking that it was a burgler and kicked it under the jaw but of course my foot just went straight through it. Again there was the same charged energy in the room as with the previous visitor.

The last was in Canewdon Church yard late one night but this time what ever it was appeared as a kind of column of blackness and was standing no more than ten feet in front of me and I was aware that it was observing me.
It suddenly shot of to my right at speed and vanished.

This time there was no buzzing or any sound whatsoever so it would seem that this shadow may have been different in origin to the other two.