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Deb's

Seance with David Thompson

Once the door to the waiting room was locked behind us we were called by name and entered the séance room. We were searched thoroughly. David himself told us where to sit.

Once we were all in the room and seated, David picked two of the sitters to pick cable ties from a large bag randomly. The sitters then witnessed David securing the woollen cardigan on himself and then observed him being tied to a chair and gagged. EVERYTHING was checked, the chair was pulled apart searching for any hidden buttons etc…. The cabinet was thoroughly checked, also the cardigan before David put it on and the gag too.

The light bulbs were removed from their sockets and the door was locked and sealed. Dennis sat in front of the door. There was no way anything could get in or out. There was a simple red light that glowed before being turned off and then it was totally black…. I mean black. You could not see your hand in front of your face.

If my memory serves me correctly……

We had an opening prayer and sang some songs to raise energy. We were asked to hold hands purely so we knew where everyone was in the room. We knew that if anything happened it could not possibly be the person next to us.

The first person that came through was William, I felt a rush of energy and excitement as I had spoken to William the night before, I could listen to this man all day. After introducing himself William asked if there was a Steven in the room….. Chris asked again…. Is there a Steven? Nope, sorry, no Steven. William said, ‘I must of got it wrong then’. Then he asked for a molder or moldie. Paul spoke up and William went over and addressed him with some personal banter and I could hear William patting Moldie and Moldie saying…. Oh he’s tapping my shoulder. William said something like, there will be some people eating some hats tonight. Everybody laughed. (one of the sitters mentioned previously that if Houdini gave proof of himself in spirit that they would eat their hat).

William said that he would take three questions. The first question came from Dennis and it was for a sitter. The question was: ‘When spirit crosses and loved ones left on earth grieve for that spirit, does it hold back that spirit on the other side from progressing?’ William said, ‘no, of course not.’  Someone asked William the difference between physical & mental meduimship. William explained this.

Timothy came through after William. Timothy is a funny & lively character. ‘Hey mrs, can you hold this for me please?’ he asked, she said he placed a trumpet on her knees. He asked her or if anyone else could play the trumpet, Chris said ‘not as well as you Tim.’ Tim played the trumpet for us and the mouth organ. Timothy also swayed aluminous trumpets around the room. Sitters cried out if the trumpet was in front of them or touching them. The circle leaders often cried out from their seat that they were still sat there and that it wasn’t them. We were all holding hands so I knew it wasn’t the man and lady sat next to me.

Timothy brought through three loved ones for sitters. There were joyful and tearful reunions. I doubt there was a dry eye in the room. Very touching, very moving and very personal. The sitters were touched and kissed.

(This is my recollection of the loved ones that came through)

First a personality called Roy came through for a lady called Joy.
‘Hello, Joy my darling, it’s me Roy, how are you my dear? How are the children treating you Joy?’
Joy, ‘Oh darling, they are not, but I am fine, really I am.’
Roy, ‘Oh, is it still going on? Oh they are naughty. What was the last thing I told them Joy?’
Joy, ‘Oh I know darling, that we should all stick together, but don’t worry dear, I am fine. Have you been to the house lately Roy?’
Roy, ‘No dear I have not, why?’
Joy, ‘I have someone staying with me dear, it’s Billy.’
Roy, ‘Oh Billy, how wonderful Joy.’
Joy, ‘Billy asked me to tell you if you came through to say thank you for lending me to him.’ (a bit waffled).
Roy, ‘I understand what you are trying to say Joy (laughing), yes that’s fine dear.’ (or something like that anyway).

The second personality that came through was a father wanting to speak to his daughter. He told her how proud he was of her, asked after her mother. Touched and kissed her. This personality was quite humorous. ‘put a dress on girl!’ ‘oh dad you know I don’t wear dresses’.

The third personality that came through was struggling. He said it was more difficult than he thought. His energy was not so strong. Chris asked us to give him words of encouragement to help him. Eventually he got stronger. He asked for his daughter Karen. A lady said, over here, can you speak up? Spirit said, ‘I am sorry, that is not my daughter’. Chris asked if there was another Karen here. A voice said yes, is that you dad? (I am getting choked up with this one already, this was one of the most touching of reunions that I have heard) I remember Karen laughing and saying, ‘I can’t point’ When she wanted to show her dad where her mum was. Chris asked for her mum to speak so he could follow the sound of her voice. I could hear his footsteps going to the other side of the room. There was a tearful reunion. The lady was taken with emotion as she cried out, ‘oh he’s kissing my hand, oh he’s kissing my face.’

Anyways….. Timothy asked us if we would like to see ectoplasm in red light, of course we all eagerly said yes. Timothy told Chris that he would knock when he was ready for the light to be turned on. We heard the raps and Chris put the light on and moved back the curtain. Chris said it was okay for us to lean forward if we could not see. I’m afraid I could not see a lot. I could make out the ectoplasm but not clearly.

Timothy also mentioned something about hat eating, stating something about maybe wanting some salt to go with it. I can’t remember if he was addressing a particular person or everyone in general.

Louis Armstrong came through and gave us a song. He had a powerful booming voice. He said, ‘I bet you never thought you’d be speaking to me.’ Or something like that. We sang what a wonderful world and hello dolly.

Timothy then said that someone was going to come through that haven’t been through in a while because he was busy working on an exercise or experiment. He told us to listen to his instructions very carefully and follow them.

Next Harry Houdini came through and introduced himself. He had a strong stern voice. He asked some sitters for an aluminous plaque. Now, again I could not see, but the sitters Harry had asked to help him were giving us detailed accounts of what was happening…. They said they could see ectoplasm, they said that they could see a hand and then, wow an apport. They said it was some sort of coin. Harry asked that a man called Joe should take this coin and have it checked. One of them said that they could see Harry’s finger pushing the coin on the plaque.

Moving on…. William came back and said there was something else we would do this evening. He said that he wanted us to bring David out of trance and untie him. Then he would levitate David in his chair around the room. William said his goodbyes.

David was brought out of trance, the room was lit and David’s ties were checked and gag also, they were all intact, I could see that they were all intact. David thought that was it, when Chris told him what William had planned, ‘oh no’ said David. Chris said, ‘I know, just sit back in your chair and we shall remove the light.’ Next thing I could hear David saying woahhhh it sounded like he was being levitated around the room. I have to say, I could hear his voice and either he was sat in a very high floating chair or there was an 8ft man walking and speaking around the room that had the same voice as David. You could hear a plop and David said, ‘ok, the chair is now on the floor, I’ve had enough now, turn on the light.’ The lights were turned on and David was not too far from me a good distance from the cabinet. I noticed his cardigan was on back to front. David looked drained and tired. He must have been roasting. It was very hot in the room and he had a woollen cardigan on! Bless him. He left the room for some air after the door was unlocked and sealed. We had a closing prayer and the séance came to an end.

Being honest, hand on heart I could not say that I witnessed spirit walking around the room, touching and kissing sitters. Or even David’s chair being levitated, simply because I could not see. I could hear someone walking and talking around the room. There was definitely someone walking around that room. We held each others hands so it was not the people next to me. The circle leaders called out often and held the hands of the person sat next to them, they were placed amongst the sitters around the room. So it could not of been them. David was still tied to his chair and was gagged. He would have to be a bloody good magician. The sound of David’s voice when being levitated came from a certain height and was heard in different parts of the room.

Was it a trick? Well, I would say if you spoke to the sitters whose loved ones came though and them telling you that WAS their loved one. The voice belonged to that loved one, the personality belonged to that loved one, how could you deny them that?

For me, I am still on the fence.... I am going to add here that I did visit my own guide and ask him was DT a physical medium or a majician, he said that he was both and needed to drop the latter.... go figure....

love & light,

Deb's.
david hobbs

This is a fascinating story but it highlights the problem with this kind of séance.

Why MUST the room be dark for these events to take place?

Any sceptic would give the obvious answer, and I would have to lean toward their way of thinking.

What possible difference could it make to spirit if it is light or dark.

Perhaps David also practises majik and that is what your guide was alluding to.

Again I would have loved to have been there.
Raymond

It is generally preferred to be dark for a number of reasons. Firstly, it is accepted that spirit people find it easier to communicate in the dark, light is a pollution and they find it more difficult to send energy in the light, also the darkness creates the right kind of mood.
When you enter a dark room with a few candles you're instantly going to be in the right frame of mind for the seance than if you were to walk into a brightly lit sunny room.
david hobbs

Raymond wrote:
It is generally preferred to be dark for a number of reasons. Firstly, it is accepted that spirit people find it easier to communicate in the dark, light is a pollution and they find it more difficult to send energy in the light, also the darkness creates the right kind of mood.
When you enter a dark room with a few candles you're instantly going to be in the right frame of mind for the seance than if you were to walk into a brightly lit sunny room.


Yes I see that, but why pitch dark?

I like to work in candle light and it does not interfere with anything.
Raymond

I don't know why pitch darnkness is needed. Personally I don't like seances in the pitch dark, I always assume the Medium has something to hide.
david hobbs

Raymond wrote:
I don't know why pitch darnkness is needed. Personally I don't like seances in the pitch dark, I always assume the Medium has something to hide.



Oh Raymond you naughty naughty chap.

How could you suggest such a thing  
Raymond

Easily.
david hobbs

I think that it is also a case of, that's how it's always been done so we will continue doing it that way.  He had to see it or be taught it by someone else.

Why don't we contact David Thompson and ask him?
Raymond

Again, I must display my ignorance, but who is David Thompson???
david hobbs

Here is his website Raymond.

http://www.silvercordcircle.com/davidthompson.html
Raymond

Don't you just love "mediums" with websites telling the world just how wonderful they are?

I don't know this man and have never seen him work but I certainly hope his mediumistic talents are better than his spelling:



David first became aware of his mediumistic abilities at the age of six when he used to see and here spirit people.
david hobbs

Mediums and websites = wages.

It really is all about money now.

I wonder if any mediums have ever asked their guides how much, if anything, they should charge.

This thing about energies being stronger at night is again just a belief, but once it has been voiced by "experts" it becomes a fact so we all follow their lead and eliminate half of the day.

If it is true why don't mediums only give readings at night, or if they do it in the daytime should you get a discount for a weaker reading.
evergreen

LOL  

I ask David....

I was being drained  (yes I know everyone says you should not be drained because it comes through you not from you- but hey I get drained )   I was given I needed to charge more and get things in balance as I was giving too much of myself away ...

I agree with your night thing ...  night day I don't' feel it matters  you see as many spirits at night as during the day .. the one thing that I have noticed is it is quieter night I wonder if that has anything to do with the concept? maybe people hear clearer?
david hobbs

Night time has been the time for ghost story's since mankind first sat around a campfire.  I think that it has formed a place in our psyche that says "night time is ghost time"

Evergreen. do you visualise yourself being filled with white light after each reading.

I know it is only mind but it is often very successful for recharging the batteries.
evergreen

David yes I do lots of visualisations.. I use gold light but I can get lazy with it sometimes ......  everything is mind and I try to do as much as I can to give myself a boost.......  sometimes I think I just spend too much time in my own head  
Raymond

I understand what you're saying about the whole day/night thing Mr. Hobbs but as far as paranormal investigations are concerned I personally think they are best done at night, if only for practical reasons.
Generally there are less people around, less cars driving past and it's a lot quieter at night time and if you're investigating a site in a built up area it's very important to have as much silence as possible.
As far as Mediumship is concerned a good Medium should be able to do what they do day or night.
I've never met a Medium who insists only on working at night however if I did I would be a little suspicious of their motives.
Many Witches only work at night but this has nothing to do with spirit contact and more to do with planetary influences.
david hobbs

Raymond wrote:
I understand what you're saying about the whole day/night thing Mr. Hobbs but as far as paranormal investigations are concerned I personally think they are best done at night, if only for practical reasons.
Generally there are less people around, less cars driving past and it's a lot quieter at night time and if you're investigating a site in a built up area it's very important to have as much silence as possible.
As far as Mediumship is concerned a good Medium should be able to do what they do day or night.
I've never met a Medium who insists only on working at night however if I did I would be a little suspicious of their motives.
Many Witches only work at night but this has nothing to do with spirit contact and more to do with planetary influences.


AND MOST OF THEM WORK OR LOOK AFTER THE KIDS DURING THE DAY.
evergreen

when I went to a circle I was told night time was best.. what I have found for me is when I am feeling good it is good... when I feel tired it isnt' so good.
david hobbs

evergreen wrote:
when I went to a circle I was told night time was best.. what I have found for me is when I am feeling good it is good... when I feel tired it isnt' so good.


Pity it's not best when your'e looking good, as it would be good all the time

Crawler or what?
mark

just honest david
david hobbs

True
evergreen

oh thanks you too...

I'm not stunning I know that but I think I'm nice
Deb's

I think your beautiful inside and out Evergreen... and no I'm not creeping  

Many 'physical' mediums perform in the pitch black. It's supposedly done because it's apparantly dangerous for the medium if the ectoplasm (which is what forms spirit) is hit by white light.... but as we know ectoplasm can be seen and photographed in white light... Helen Duncan, Leslie Flint to name but two, both produced ectoplasm in white light.

There have been stories of where light have seeped through and mediums have been caught 'cheating' shall we say.... even our dear old Colin Fry was caught waving a trumpet around when someone accidently leaned on a light switch....

The only medium that I have seen producing ectoplasm in white light is Jean Skinner.

love & light,
david hobbs

Deb's wrote:
I think your beautiful inside and out Evergreen... and no I'm not creeping  

Many 'physical' mediums perform in the pitch black. It's supposedly done because it's apparantly dangerous for the medium if the ectoplasm (which is what forms spirit) is hit by white light.... but as we know ectoplasm can be seen and photographed in white light... Helen Duncan, Leslie Flint to name but two, both produced ectoplasm in white light.

There have been stories of where light have seeped through and mediums have been caught 'cheating' shall we say.... even our dear old Colin Fry was caught waving a trumpet around when someone accidently leaned on a light switch....

The only medium that I have seen producing ectoplasm in white light is Jean Skinner.

love & light,



How do you get to see this.  Do you have to book in private?
Deb's

Well, for David Thompson you have to be a member of the Zerdin Fellowship.... I want to sit with Bill Meadows next and the Andersons. Hopefully I'll get in. I did think I would be refused at David Thompson's as we had many a disagreement over the internet. He's actually an ok guy, but I am still not totally convinced.

I was very fortunate to meet Jean Skinner. I booked a weekend with erm... Christiopher Heath... he's from psychic live... Jean was a fantastic bonus for me... I didn't even know she was going to be there. Lovely, lovely lady.

It's not that I am searching for evidence of the after life or anything, I have all the evidence I need for myself. It's just I want to 'experience' more, it fascinates and intrigues me.... not that I would like to do it of course.  Big Grin
david hobbs

It's jean skinner I am interested in.

I have never seen a physical medium working.
Deb's

Jean doesn't promote herself too much, she lives a simple modest life, she told me that fame & fortune actually frightened her... she practically lives out of a suitcase... she has a small rented flat that she is rarely in. A truly amazing women... I wish I would of got her number. She's a friend of Christopher Heaths, he did say he was going to hold another weekend with Jean this year, but I havn't heard from him. (but then Mr Heath & I had a near falling out, so that may be why)   You could check out his website.... just a thought....

love & light,
evergreen

I have heard of ectoplasm though I know absolutely nothing about it,  or what it really is, maybe one day I will find out...

A month or so back when I was working a friend took a photo of me in between sitters and there is this huge over shadowing of me you actually can't see me clearly at all.. though the other people in the photo are bright and clear I'll have to try to get a copy of that photo to put up for you to see....  at the time it surprised me, but then I wonder why anything should surprise me

I don't' think it is this ectoplasm that you speak of but none the less it is a very interesting photo

Oh and Deb's nothing about you is creepy dear you just appear to be honest and lovely two perfect attributes  
mark

id like to see jean skinner as well
i just hope she doesnt loose interest in all of this
evergreen

For once I have heard of this person-  am I right in thinking Jean Skinner has written some books?
Deb's

I don't know of any books she has written, sorry.

She is in the brecon beacons in August... check out link...

http://www.christopherheath.net/events.html

Not cheap though.... it's not her charging this amount by the way, Jean only gets paid expenses... I'm sure she'll be doing demonstrations else where, will have a look.

love & light,
david hobbs

I find the whole idea of spirits needing humans to produce ectoplasm in order that they can manifest, odd.

How does that work?
Deb's

The world ectoplasm means... ecto (outside) plasm... (something formed or moulded). I is spiritual energy that is formed and the medium excretes a substance from orifices, this substance is then draped over the non physical body allowing us to see it....

I've never seen a full real life materialisation of this kind. I have seen part of a body in red light... was not enough to convince me. I have seen Jean's face change to form a face of another... I have seen picitures, but some do not look convincing at all.... some of Helen Duncan's materialisations such as peggy, looked like puppets....

But, I do believe anything is possible, so I can't just dismiss it. That would be too easy, would it not?

love & light,
david hobbs

Really then, no one knows what ectoplasm is.

How extraordinary that one day in the past a spirit decided to drape itself in an unknown substance in order to be seen and as luck would have it a person was handy who could provide the required substance.

So many questions.

For instance why does this substance stick to the exact shape of the spirit?

Is it done by an act of will or just something that happens?

Where is this substance in our bodies and what other function does it serve.

In nature there is no surplus so it must have a function.
Deb's

You raise some good points Mr Hobbs... I don't believe that anyone really knows what ectoplasm really is...

I don't believe in luck. I do believe spirit ochestrate things, but then why are we going backwards? Why is it for example that Helen Duncan could produce such phenomema in white light and it can't be done today?

If it was all trickery, then why? Helen was never rich, it caused her more harm than anything.

love & light,
david hobbs


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Here are some pictures of Helen Duncan producing ectoplasm.

What do you think of them
david hobbs

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Here is another picture.

If this is genuine then my old chaps a chocolate biscuit
Deb's

David, I know what you are saying, but why? why if it was a hoax did Helen do this? I simply can't just dismiss it, on the other hand the pictures are very questionable.

Knowing the story of Helen Duncan, I do not dismiss the fact that she was indeed a great medium.... but I can bring that forward to today.... The latest being David Thompson.... or the more well known Colin Fry.... I ask myself, are they meduims that are trying to go that step further with trickery....  again why?

It's a mad world we live in.

love & light,
evergreen

Ok now I am looking at those pohtos think --  what do they think we are???  I mean how stupid do people think we are?
david hobbs

Deb's wrote:
David, I know what you are saying, but why? why if it was a hoax did Helen do this? I simply can't just dismiss it, on the other hand the pictures are very questionable.

Knowing the story of Helen Duncan, I do not dismiss the fact that she was indeed a great medium.... but I can bring that forward to today.... The latest being David Thompson.... or the more well known Colin Fry.... I ask myself, are they mediums that are trying to go that step further with trickery....  again why?

It's a mad world we live in.

love & light,



The thing is that the pictures show so clearly that the ectoplasm is fake.

You say why would she do it.

The same reason that many psychics and mediums fail in the end.

They lose their powers but are still expected to perform and by that time the fame may just be getting to their ego's.

I know a few mediums who past their sell by dates years ago but with experience and past reputation they still bring in the punters.

Mediums are not spiritual people by definition and I would say of those I know that most are defiantly not spiritual but think that they are.

I know that it seems I am always having a go at mediums but they are Oh so human.
Deb's

I agree, I know alot of mediums but the majority of them I would say were not spiritual at all, but like I said in a previous post somewhere... my definition of what is a spiritual person may differ from others.

I also agree that ego takes over. It can be difficult at times to keep our ego in check... we slip into this superego.

I suppose I find it hard to believe that people would 'con' people in this way, because it would be the furthest thing from my mind...

Love & light,
david hobbs

Deb's wrote:
I agree, I know alot of mediums but the majority of them I would say were not spiritual at all, but like I said in a previous post somewhere... my definition of what is a spiritual person may differ from others.

I also agree that ego takes over. It can be difficult at times to keep our ego in check... we slip into this superego.

I suppose I find it hard to believe that people would 'con' people in this way, because it would be the furthest thing from my mind...

Love & light,


The thing is that not only do they con people, but they also con themselves.

I cannot believe the number of mediums who are absolutely useless but believe that they are the very best.  The place abounds with them.

We can all be good on a good day but not every day is a good one.
Deb's

What annoys me though is when you get a good meduim... and they have to try and take it that step further and 'cheat' if you like... making a mockery out of meduimship, spiritualism and the likes... Then you get the sceptics who will rubbish it all because of it.... and can you blame them really?

love & light,
laura

when i sit in the congregation at the local spiritualist church and listen to the "mediums" on the rostrum... most of the time i wonder why i bother going..... one particular time ...i listened to an address that was being given by a medium ...it was a poignant and insightful. throughout the address i sat amazed staring at an almost angelic women stood behind the medium as she spoke such beautiful words...... when it came to the part of the service for the medium to give messages....well... quite frankly ..she spoke a complete load of rot... and through out the rest of the service, there was certainly no more appearences from the "angel" stood behind her!
  my point being..... in my opinion this women was indeed a medium.... but when faced with a congregation she was not using her ability...??? was it ego getting in the way as david suggests or the pressure to perform preventing "divine communication".... ???  
    over the last year i have only met one person that has stood on the rostrum, that i have considered to be "the real thing!"  .....statistically thats 1in 50 approx.........  and we question why the sites like bad psychics have a field day!!!
mark

i couldnt agree more ,i had a reading last night ,i was in a chat rooom ,lady said i have some info  4 you mark ,started of as ok ,,then it just  seemed guesswork....how mediumship  bores me at times,as i dont think it is mediumship with many ,just guesswork.....but then there are some that are just very good ,but have you noticed that psychic readings generally arent  that meaningfull?the standard generally out there  from what i see isnt good,and debs yes i think many mediums just add things on ,its a shame ,but humans are like that sometimes,and are generally very hit and miss .......
david hobbs

Well then we all seem to be in agreement.

Mediums do exist but most of what we see in Spiritualist churches is pure rubbish.

Why would a mediums guide be there at the beginning and vanish when it is time to give the messages?

Can't the medium see that this is happening.  if not then they are not mediums and if the do realise it is happening why don't they find out why.

Mediumship and psych ism are all a part of being human and they are trying to teach us something.

I still think that the sticking point is when we depend on guides.

I honestly don't think that they are essential but that they are needed in a way to start us working.  After that we should gain independence from them but most mediums become entrenched in the concept of the spiritualist church.

Do we need guides at all?
laura

DO we need guides at all?.......... good question...... the majority of mediums seem to think they must have named guides that they know well and work with all the time..... to me this is a strange way of thinking......  we gain information in everyday life from so many different places.. 1 or 2 people certainly do not have all the answers... so why should we have one guide???.....
   ok so you could say that this is the link to universal knowledge... but then surely in limiting yourself to thinking in one guide...instead of knowing the universal knowledge you are adding limitations, which can not be a good thing!
evergreen

ooo you hit the nail on my little head David.. I stopped using my guides (but tha tI mean stop asking them to connect wtih others guides as I had been informed was the right thing to do to give me information) about 15 months ago....  

My reasoning was simple - I wasn't sure if they should be spending all this time spoon feeding me - I've never been to a spiritualist church ...  so maybe that is why I am so open because my head isnt' full of rules to hold me back.. I'm not sure but I do know that my gut is my best guide it rarely fails me

I know a fellow who speaks to his guides as though he is having a conversation  ( he does this all the time)  YET he never gets anything to give to anyone else and often he got rubbish or crude things through (like some rude joke or something about the under wear someone was wearing) I never hear things like that NEVER I began to think that some of these guides were either a manifestation of peoples imagination or that they were playing around with people .....   I decided to ask them to step back and be there only if totally needed I have done so and my work has grown ten fold ....  

Now I'm not sure what to think but I do think that learning on my own has been the best path for me
mark

i think.i dont no but maybee some peoples so called guides,like what evergreen just mentioned, are actually lower grounded spirit,these lie decieve  and could be mistaken by some......its very possible
david hobbs

mark wrote:
i think.i dont no but maybee some peoples so called guides,like what evergreen just mentioned, are actually lower grounded spirit,these lie decieve  and could be mistaken by some......its very possible


Why would they bother Mark?
Raymond

I have to say I'm aware of my guides and doorkeepers and so on but I must admit I don't really do a lot with them.
They pop up in meditations every now and then but that's about it.
mark

well i dont no,could it be that they are mischevous,feed of our energy,if they say 4 example were,whilst alive ,say a  alcoholic,would they be attracted to the same ?
id wouldnt say i no this ,it just is something i believe could be a strong possibility
Raymond

I think we're all getting a little carried away here. Guides most certainly do exist. We all have at least one.
What they are here to do is to help you evolve through life and work towards your greater good.
They are there to help you learn from mistakes from the past and try to move higher and higher up the spiritual ladder.
They are not there to protect you from life's woes and they most certainly are not there to relay messages back and forth from Aunty Maud and her dead Budgie.
If you are a true Medium you should be more than capable of giving and receiving messages from Aunty Maud without the help of some kind of spiritual middle man.
The relationship with your giude(s) is a two-way thing. While they are helping you advance so too are you helping them do the same.
They are not angels, or demi-gods or guardian spirits or whatever other fancy titles the "mediums" on Living TV give them, they are just spirit and they do their very, very best to try and make sure you don't cock the whole thing up so you have to start all over again.
laura

Raymond wrote:
I think we're all getting a little carried away here. Guides most certainly do exist. We all have at least one..


        good for starting a hearty debate though   and its very interesting hearing everyone's take on the subject! Big Grin    

    the trouble is that some people(certainly in the spiritualist movement) have very blinkered views on things... they speak what they believe as fact... which limits possibilities... i know.... all religions are like this.... but (except for usa) not all religions are in disguise on the tv, pushing their ideas as given fact on a daily basis!  with programes such as most haunted, sixth sense, crossing over, psychic interactive ect...... (n.b. programmes which i had the misfortune of seriously  watching...once!!)

   and from these... "mediums" considering that this is the way they must work...... and thus ploughing on blindly not considering any other possibilities........

  i do not deem myself a medium.... nor will i ever.... i see ,hear and more than any thing know stuff.... i follow my intuition... whatever that maybe....if along the way i can offer some words to someone that they deem helpful ..then great.... but this is my own journey.

  sorry am waffling... had a frustrating day!!!!!
meiah

Going round in circles on this one......

How much of what we do is influenced by Guides even if we do not recognise it as such?

(The thinking behind that was " if I do not recognise my Guide, is he/she powerless to guide me?". Then I thought "if you intentionally disregard a Guide, woudl he / she act in your best interest anyway?")
evergreen

my simple belief for what it is worth on this matter is that you guiides are there .. yes we all have one or more or many...   they will nudge you in directions...  but in the end the choice is yours

I have had people come to me asking if they have a guide yet because some other psychic has told them they dont' have a guide   hmm that kind of talk is pure rot in my mind....  no one is any better than anyone else we all have a guide whether we know it or not

Meiah  I saw a guide for 30 plus years before someone told me the word guide....  to me he wasa spirit that was around me all the time
david hobbs

I have had more guides than hot dinners.  A german doctor a Red Indian a Chinaman A small boy and on and on oh and lets not forget the doorkeeper.

I don't feel dissrespecful towards them, just puzzled.

Why so many.

Oh and let's not forget the Wise old man and Merlin.

I must need an awful lot of help.
david hobbs

Raymond wrote:
I think we're all getting a little carried away here. Guides most certainly do exist. We all have at least one.
What they are here to do is to help you evolve through life and work towards your greater good.
They are there to help you learn from mistakes from the past and try to move higher and higher up the spiritual ladder.
They are not there to protect you from life's woes and they most certainly are not there to relay messages back and forth from Aunty Maud and her dead Budgie.
If you are a true Medium you should be more than capable of giving and receiving messages from Aunty Maud without the help of some kind of spiritual middle man.
The relationship with your giude(s) is a two-way thing. While they are helping you advance so too are you helping them do the same.
They are not angels, or demi-gods or guardian spirits or whatever other fancy titles the "mediums" on Living TV give them, they are just spirit and they do their very, very best to try and make sure you don't cock the whole thing up so you have to start all over again.



There is a lot of certainty here Raymond.

Do we all have at least one?

Were you once a follower of the Spiritualist movement.
david hobbs

The more I think about it the more I feel that there is something amiss with the whole concept of guides.

I have come to the conclusion that you are your best guide and what you see as another entity external to yourself is actually just an aspect of you that you have created.

It could of course be a mixture of the two things.
Raymond

More importantly, did we ever find out who the hell David Thompson is?
evergreen

Perhaps the biggest guide (or greatest)  would be the higher self  or whatever you choose to call, I refer to that that part of me I can either be unconscious or conscious of that sits outside of me...  allowing me to remote view and the like or to dream   ---  anyone think like this? the part I am connected to at all times yet often unaware of
mark

ye evergreen i do agree i am sure there are many sides to me ,i just no that something is happening  at times which i cannot understand,once i was able to stand in my garden and  then look back at me ,i was able to briefly look around and then this occurrence stopped ,many things like this have happened,of course some people here no whats going on,but me i personally just try to enjoy  without being told,as i do no that i feel 4 me its better to learn  and be guided,i do no what you mean evergreen

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