david hobbs
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Physical mediums and camerasI was reading that some physical mediums refuse to be filmed as apparently the infra red lighting required would cause them or the spirit harm.
Does anyone know about this.
Has anyone ever seen physical mediumship.
I just found one in Essex and am trying to book an appointment with them.
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mark
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what do u meen book an appointment with them dave
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david hobbs
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I want to see physical mediumship.
I have seen most other things but never this kind of thing.
I guess they charge for a sitting but in the cause of research I would love to go.
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mark
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may i ask who you will go and see
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david hobbs
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| mark wrote: | | may i ask who you will go and see |
I don't know yet I have just emailed a contact address.
I assume that they will be back in touch.
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Raymond
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I have never seen physical mediumship that I didn't consider 'suspicious'. I would love to see it done properly.
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david hobbs
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| Raymond wrote: | | I have never seen physical mediumship that I didn't consider 'suspicious'. I would love to see it done properly. |
Well you will be the first to know if I find one.
I do wonder if these people are kidding themselves.
I can't even find a spiritualist who is certain about this phenomena.
The thing is that it could just be that as with so many aspects of Spiritualism we nowadays are getting the watered down version.
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mark
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this type of mediumship is rare
most sit behind closed doors in home circles
many that do this are supposedly underdeveloped
i dont no of any that can repeatedly produce results
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evergreen
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So what is Physical Medium ship .. is it like trance? I'm guessing not but honestly have no real idea
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mark
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its when the medium does xercise like on a bike in the gym and is still able to do mental mediumship.its funand u keep fit
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Raymond
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Mark, sweetie,..... leave the gags to me.
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evergreen
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um right thanks for clearing that up for me Mark
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mark
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this is a good link
http://www.fst.org/physmed.htm
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Raymond
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It can mean many things EG. Producing ectoplasm in order to make a spirit appear solid, voices through a trumpet, things moving round the room, disembodied voices, that kind of thing.
The Medium produces 'physical' evidence rather than 'mental' evidence.
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evergreen
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thank you interesting yes....
it be interesting to see what comes from it David
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david hobbs
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Here is a medium performing physical mediumship and allegedly producing a spirit person from ectoplasm
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Raymond
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It's dust!
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david hobbs
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I'm sure he's working under cover for James Randi.....
Interestingly this is I believe Helen Duncan. We have been talking about her on the Tony Robinson Show thread.
A contributer to this site(rarely) Told me that her mother saw the original photo's of these seance's and that the ones we are familiar with have been tampered with possibly by the newspaper people.
This I think adds a whole new angle on this topic.
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Lilly
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Re: Physical mediums and cameras | david hobbs wrote: | I was reading that some physical mediums refuse to be filmed as apparently the infra red lighting required would cause them or the spirit harm.
Does anyone know about this.
Has anyone ever seen physical mediumship.
I just found one in Essex and am trying to book an appointment with them. |
I was going to introduce you to a marvellous physical medium,who I have sat with many times,but found out only today that she passed on in October 2008
I wasn't at this particular seance,but have been to similar ones. here is a sample ;
Séance under bright red light on Thursday 24th May 2007
Held in lake distict
Those present: our regular sitters, Jean Duncan, Fiona Cooper, Jackie and Keith Parsons, Glenda Davies, Freda Paget, Davy Jones, Micheal Rogers, Janet, Kerry, Jenny. Second time of sitting with us : Llew Jenkins; First time in anything to do with spiritualism : Sandra and Ritchie Burton, Roxy and Matthew Knox.
Jean Duncan sat as the physical medium, Fiona Cooper to her left, and Jackie Parsons to her right. Jean talked to us checking that everyone could see every part of the room, and that the light was bright enough so that no shadows would confuse anything. On the table were three luminous rods which we have used at every séance, and our trumpet for direct voice. Jean asked us to send out beautiful thoughts, thinking of those we love in the Spirit world. The atmosphere in the room started to change almost immediately. Jean instructed us to stay alert and aware of everything with her and not to be influenced and go into an altered state because of the strength of the Spirit around us, and then asked us to examine the trumpet to make sure there were no strings or microphones or anything else inside or anywhere around it. Michael, as he looked into the trumpet, said there was something in it but he didn’t know what it was and handed the trumpet to Jean who placed it with its narrow end against the red light so that she could look into it from the wide end to see what he was talking about. What she saw was an eyeball floating in the trumpet, an eyeball with a brown iris. Jean does not accept that it is physical phenomena unless everyone present sees the same thing, so she passed it around the circle, so that each sitter could see for themselves and everyone did.
Shortly after this event, Jean went into trance and Basho, Marie Corelli, and Ayesha all kept us enthralled as they talked and answered a wide range of questions freely through Jean Duncan’s mediumship.
When jean came out of trance, the table was moving very gently, and the rod on the table had been moved. The energy of Spirit in the room was very strong, and at this point, Jackie Parsons and Fiona Cooper felt jean rise beside them. She had been lifted in her chair, and all the sitters came round to feel the gap between the chair legs and the floor, and when measured it was found to be approximately six inches. Jean floated there for a while and the energy kept building so that everyone commented on it. Jean was then tipped backwards at an angle, and her voice became distant.
She said ‘I don’t know what’s happening – it’s very dark.’
Without touching her body, Jackie and Fiona felt around her shoulders and could not feel her head at all.
Jean said ‘I’m up the chimney, they’ve put me up the chimney.’
Other sitters also felt around Jean’s shoulders and agreed that her head just wasn’t there, although we could all hear her voice. Those of us who have sat many times with Jean kept the atmosphere calm and talked to the new sitters about what was happening.
After a while, Jean said ‘I’m back,’ and her chair was very gently lowered back to the floor, while we all were marvelling at what had happened.
When we closed the circle and put the ordinary lights back on, we examined the wall and the fireplace behind where jean had been sitting : the wall was stone, and the fireplace made of stone slabs, as well as being sealed, so it was a physical impossibility for anything to actually go into the chimney.
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david hobbs
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Everyones popping thier clogs Lilly.
The more information we can get on the internet before it is our turn to die the better.
Do you know of any physical mediums who are working today?
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mark
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mark wrote:
may i ask who you will go and see
I don't know yet I have just emailed a contact address.
I assume that they will be back in touch.
any news david?
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david hobbs
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I have no idea.
I just want to see a physical medium working.
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mark
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this is a link to a lady that many say is a good trans medium ,jean skinner http://www.transcommunication.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1860
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Lilly
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| mark wrote: | | this is a link to a lady that many say is a good trans medium ,jean skinner http://www.transcommunication.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1860 |
Thanks for the reminder Mark .
I saw Jean Skinner many years ago in London in transfiguration.
It was not pitch black either.
Although I havent seen this,here is one of her transfigurations.
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david hobbs
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I wanted good old fashioned ectoplasm and direct voice.
It must still exist somewhere.
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evergreen
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I have been taped with voice change .. Its hard to prove though i did use to do trance mediumship in my early days in work they all seem to have distinct voices .... I understand the speculation one thing that helped me was I had no recollection of the trance whatsoever afterward... I do know that people who saw me said I made physical changes in the face this I can't confirm as apparently photos never turned out??? that is always suspicious to me ... I'll also add that this was always done int eh light day or night and even sometimes I did it outdoors.... in the middle of a paddock or wood
Its probably way off what you are talking about but it as close as I have experienced so far
but the ectoplasm I have no experience with at all
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Tommy
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That's very interesting Evergreen. Are you familiar with the work of Leslie Flint?
http://www.leslieflint.com/index.html
http://adcguides.com/validity2.htm
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Raymond
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Is that the one who brought through Freddie Mercury and when they asked him his real name he didn't know?
Or is that the one who drones on and on for hours and hours talking about how lovely the flowers are in the spirit world?
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Tommy
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| Raymond wrote: | Is that the one who brought through Freddie Mercury and when they asked him his real name he didn't know?
Or is that the one who drones on and on for hours and hours talking about how lovely the flowers are in the spirit world? |
No idea. As far as I'm aware Leslie Flint stopped his work in the 1970s.
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evergreen
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its interested what he has to say .. thanks Tommy
I understand what you are saying Raymond... there are obviously people out there flaunting people who would love to believe and get proof
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