One for Evergreen

evergreen

Yes I've been watching this one... I know three of them on there- hmm I dont' think I'd be putting my hand up to do it .. they say the best psychics but I know two whom I think are much better who aren't on there .. I think the best is not right,, they picked one from each state

two got knocked off this week... it is like an elimination where the two judges vote of the ones with the least number of "hits". So far they have had 15 minutes to find a boy in the bush, a reading, had to find a chosen shipping container and some more readings.. the two that got voted off one I think is a very good clarvoyant he does radio work the other is a medium that I dont' know she seemed just lovely but got nothing right poor thing

It is a bit if a sad thing because I think that skeptics are getting good value for their kicks..

but also these people will grow some business out of the publicity

david hobbs

There was a program with the same format on UK TV. Finding a person hiding in a car boot in a full car park etc.

Some of the psychics were good, and some not, but I have often found with psychics that they can be accurate one day and not the next.

The sceptics explanations for how such things could be done was frankly ludicrous.

evergreen

yes I have found people want to to talk to me about this show... many are skeptics saying all kinds of things about how they are so false.. I dont' like to be drawn into the kind of converstaion about someone who works in the field I do whom I dont' even know, so I cannot possibly comment on them in any manner

and by discrediting these people are we not discrediting all psychics?

I hope they all do well -

david hobbs

The jealousy and animosity between mediums never ceases too amaze me.

And this from people who mostly have a patronising "I am spiritual" personality.

There is something amiss somewhere.

evergreen

Just between you and I David one of them on the show is the one who has banned me from her forum .....

I still wish her well and feel bad she could see way to have room for more than one medium on her forum.

I don't think this kind of jealously is limited to mediums though is it ??

I don't' like getting things wrong so I guess that is where it all comes from the old I am better than that attitude .. it is a fine line between wanting to be better and thinking you are the best

evergreen

david hobbs

evergreen

I'd say there is nothing nice about it either David.. I wonder what that is all about??? Why mediums in particular do you think? Is it because mediums walk in smaller circles so everyone knows everything about each other???

david hobbs

A lot of mediums are outwardly humble in public, and inwardly self important.

They love the status of being different and recognised.

Legends in their own lunchtime.

I tried to make this point to Raymond in another thread.

People like to stand out from the crowd.

Many mediums genuinly believe that they are the best.

Many mediuns are just plain rubbish.

david hobbs

By the way.

It sounds as if I am anti medium and I am not.

Raymond

evergreen

evergreen

One of the psychics on the show is Ezio De Angelis here is a copy of part ofhis website.. your opinions are welcome

here is the link to his site

http://www.eziodeangelis.com.au/index.php

Ezio is available for private sittings or as a guest speaker at major festivals and fairs. For further information, call 0419 236 220.

How it works

First and foremost I am a medium – that means I connect to the spirit world. In a private sitting I explain that I can’t always control who comes through in a particular session but for the most part, we are usually able to make contact with the person the sitter most wants to hear from.

Although we use the term Psychic Medium, I don’t really consider myself a psychic…even though that’s what many people think mediums are. Psychics work with a different energy vibration. A medium concentrates on developing a link to the spirit world that enables information, feelings, personality…to be transferred to the medium. In many ways this link is like a conduit to the spirit realms.

Group sessions are much more active. Imagine that each person in the audience brings just two or three spirits with them when they attend a demonstration of mediumship. In an audience of one hundred people, that means around three hundred spirits present all wanting to make contact.

If it weren’t for my guides and helpers, it would be mayhem out there!

Actually, nothing could be further from the truth. The guides and helpers know what they are doing. They manipulate and change the energy vibration of the spirit link so that each communicator comes through in an orderly if not sometimes emphatic fashion.

I cherish the intimacy of the private sitting... but I must admit... I love the adrenaline and joyous intensity of the public platform.

A medium is anyone who communicates with the spirit world. There are many forms of mediumship ranging from spiritual or energetic healing, inspired or visionary art, physical phenomena, trance or channelling and of course…my favourite…survival evidence. Some people lump fortune telling into the same category as mediumship but I don’t think that’s correct.

As a rule, I don’t consider mediumship and fortune telling to be the same thing. I also don’t make predictions unless the prediction comes directly from a spirit communicator. There is a huge difference between psychic practice and mediumship. A psychic obtains their information from the energy of the person they are reading for. A medium links directly to the spirit. Sadly there are many psychics who call themselves mediums and conversely many mediums who don’t serve the purpose of spirit because they can’t seem to understand the importance of simply being a message bearer.

I dont' mind saying that the it confuses me to no end when a medium puts down psychics- or am I just thinking this is a put down calling them forune tellers?? .. all mediums are psychic otherwise they would not be a medium.. ???

david hobbs

Don't have him for a boyfriend Evergreen.

I looked at his picture and had a bad feeling.

Bloody hell, sorry one and all for sounding so new agey!!!!!

His website is a sales promoting venture.

It states the obvious.

As for mediums being better than psychics that is a matter of opinion.

I do distrust any medium who claims to be able to bring through a specific spirit most of the time.

I have never seen that happen.

Spirit do not take requests.

Raymond

I don't think he 'puts down' psychics but merely explains there's a difference - which there is.

Many mediums I know or see work clearly don't know when they are doing a spirit reading or an auric reading. This is probably down to a lack in their training.

When a medium does a reading for someone usually only about 20% - 30% of the reading actually comes from spirit, the rest comes from the auric feild of the sitter.
A lot of mediums think ALL the information is coming from spirit and it's simply not true.

A good medium will feel the subtle changes in energy when they are reading from either spirit or aura and even when you are bringing through names, dates and events you could actually be picking that up from the sitters' auric field because they may be so desperate to hear a specific name of a passed loved one that for days beforehand they could have done nothing but think about that person and that's what the medium is picking up on.

It's useful to know the difference between spirit information and auric information because then you will know when you are receiving true spirit contact.

evergreen

interesting
David I was not thinking of marrying him

but I was interested in his opinion on this he teachs metaphysical development so I guess he must say that to a lot of people

having watch the show only three times I might add but I do like him he comes across just lovely and is obvioulsy talented in passed over readings...

Raymond I know there is a different but, you do have to be psychic to be a medium .. and in truth the people coming for readings don't really know there is any difference do they

Raymond

I don't think you do have to be psychic to be a Medium but a good Medium would certainly seek to develop both aspects.

I don't think your average sitter would know the difference unless they were a Medium themselves.

Auric readings are no different from tarot readings or flower readings or psycometry (ooops! it's 2:30am - can't spell) you're reading the 'energy' of the person rather than receiving information from spirit.

evergreen

ok so you dont' have to be psychic to be a medium, I was under the impression that mediumship came from being psychic.... I'm not questioning you Raymond I want to learn that's all :)

Maybe I dont' understandthe difference enough myself becasue I am a medium

so where does being clairvoyant fall into it??? I'm mean you hear things but can you hear when you are just reading energy??? see I'm confused LOL

Raymond

As always EG I can only give my opinion on the subject.
From what I have witnessed over the years a Psychic isn't necessarily Medium however a Medium, more often than not, is a psychic.

Psychic ability comes in many forms, Clairvoyance which means 'clear-seeing' - this when you 'see' images and visions in your mind's eye.

Clairsentience, 'clear-feeling'. When you can describe the history of a person or an object by touching it.

Clairaudience, clear-hearing. 'Hearing' information (not necassarily from spirit).

Clairalience, clear-smelling. Where a person smells scents that can relate to a place, event or person.

Claircognizance, clear-knowing. It is the ability to know something without knowing how or why you know it.

Clairgustance, clear-tasting. Like clairalience this is knowing tastes relating to places, events or people.

Most psychics work with a mixture of all of these but usually rely more heavily on one or two more than the others.
You can hold an object and know all about it's history and where it came from - that's your psychic ability, it has nothing to do with spirit.
You can speak to a person and "see" what will happen over the next few weeks, again that's your ability, not spirit.
You can "know" who is calling you before you answer the phone, it's your psychic ability, it has absolutely nothing to do with spirit.

Mediums communicate with sprit. You really don't need any of the above to receive messages from spirit, although it does help because spirit will use the above talents to make communication clearer and easier if they know you are open to them.

evergreen

thanks for that Raymond... so where do the voices come from that a psychic hears? How do psychics do future readings? where does their information come from .. the aura of the person?

Raymond

It's hard to explain. I sometimes 'hear' things, I'm sure you do too EG, and they aren't exactly voices, or even words, it really is very difficult to explain.
Maybe it's your own inner voice or intuition, I don't know.

Now, if you want to start talking about the voices in my head.....

david hobbs

A medium is someone that passes on information.

Does it have to be from spirit.

Knowing what you do about the majical realms Raymond you must by

now realise that your mind could be constructing the very spirits that you

perceive as the givers of information.

Raymond

Of course, but then I am aware of the subtle change in energy when I am giving information from spirit and giving information that I just 'know'.

evergreen

I understand what you mean but the subtle change in energy the light buzz that surround me when a a passed over is around...

but I still don't' think it can be a definite thing that we know it definitely either psychic or medium....

I still ask who do some know the future I ask because this is one huge thing for me in my work my clairvoyance is a big part of it - so I am apparently a fortune teller ... so who is telling me this future information all my readings are medium when I look at the definitions given here and else where - but according to many I have also read that fortune tellers or clairvoyants are apparently not mediums

I think that this kind of belief may limit the growth of people ?? I'm not sure as I can really only ever know my own experiences and so can't speak as a authority for others

Raymond

I think this a case of just 'do what you do' EG. I still get things even now and I think to myself 'where the bloody hell did that come from?'

I don't think it's right to put yourself in a box labelled 'Medium', 'Psychic', 'Fortune Teller' etc,. because the truth is we are very probably all of those things and none of them.

evergreen

Yeah that is what I have been doing Raymond, I guess I just keep on keeping on.. I do love discussion on this topic

this thread should have been named the assist EG thread-

Raymond

Y'know I've given up trying to work out how I do what I do or where it comes from or how it all works.
The way I see it is one day it could all be taken away from me so I'll use it now while I still can.
I'm totally convinced I will end up completely ga-ga locked in a padded cell before my pension age so it's a case of making hay while the sun shines.

evergreen

nah Raymond you'll mellow in your older years I'm sure no padded cells for you but a hell of a lot of friends I think some may not believe it but you feel incredibly social and well liked

Raymond

Awww thanks Eg

, yeah I do have a fair number of very good friends but as always, balance is king so I have a fair number of enemies as well.

I've always thought it says a lot more about a person if you judge them by the quality of their enemies rather than the quality of their friends.

evergreen

the things that enter your mind Raymond