david hobbs
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My dark sideI went to my meditation teacher this evening , and during my meditation I saw my dark side. My teacher calls it the shadow.
It appeared when I asked to see my future so I was a bit disconcerted to think that my future was dark.
Gradualy it moved to one side and I saw light coming through in it's place, and as it came through me the feeling was like a river of energy pouring through my solar plexus. It was so powerful that I could just about bear it.
Now that I can recognise my dark side, or shadow, it will not be able to take control so easily when my guard is down as it has done so many times in the past.
Meditation is an amazing tool.
I am happy because my dark side is very dark indeed and I need to deal with it.
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meiah
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I was once told that light is as blinding as darkness, without both, there is no form.
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billy nomates
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surely you are both? remember the yin and yang sign?
why do you judge your dark side to be bad and that you need to control it?
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Waffle King
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there is nothing to fear from having a "Dark side" it's always there, will always be there, and there is nothing you can do about it, i have a dark side, i know it very well, I've never leaned to control it, nor will i ever, to be human, is do be both good and evil, it's up to you to decide whether you follow the light, or the dark
I have on many many occasions followed my darkness, only to find and bigger and better bright side, then again, it works both ways........
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meiah
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How many times do your greatest weaknesses turn out to be your greatest strengths?
It is a judgement is all...not necesarily the truth.
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david hobbs
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I suppose that one of the problems with the term light and dark side suggests a sharp division between the two asin the yin yang symbol.
That cannot be of course, they must overlap. Perhaps that is why the Yin Yang symbol has a dot of light in the dark and vice versa.
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evergreen
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and remember to be dark doesn't mean evil it can mean depressed or ill or upset....
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Mel S
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Surely the dark side of us all is there for a reason. .. balance?
We often focus totally on the light and positive aspects of our Self in turn denying the dark and negative attributes we all possess. This means that we are both the Light and Dark. To deny or repress the darkness within us all, is to deny and repress a huge part of our natural make up, Its what makes us who we are.
We categorise most things in our life as light and dark (good & bad, right & wrong) Maybe we should be looking for the good within the bad, the right within the wrong.. the light within the dark?..In my view, one is there to balance out the other.
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meiah
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My worst qualities are also my best.
I anger quickly (it blows over as quickly), but it helps me to recognise my hangups, and address them.
I am frustrated with my own shortcomings, and so I work on them.
I doubt myself. And so i question, I learn, I overcome that doubt. I become more confident.
I get upset when others doubt me, but it forces me to face my own doubts and recognise my strengths. I become stronger.
I no longer consider my worst qualities on that way. They show me my strengths, and allow me to question my judgements, and so I become more open.
Ok, there are some I have still to sort out but thats OK
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david hobbs
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| Mel D wrote: | Surely the dark side of us all is there for a reason. .. balance?
We often focus totally on the light and positive aspects of our Self in turn denying the dark and negative attributes we all possess. This means that we are both the Light and Dark. To deny or repress the darkness within us all, is to deny and repress a huge part of our natural make up, Its what makes us who we are.
We categorise most things in our life as light and dark (good & bad, right & wrong) Maybe we should be looking for the good within the bad, the right within the wrong.. the light within the dark?..In my view, one is there to balance out the other. |
So On your big day are you dressing in black and white check
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Mel S
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No david ... The only checks will be the ones were signing as we pay for it all..
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billy nomates
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seems to me that we are programmed to be good.........dont do this -dont do that-...............yet while we do so then others just do what they want-
stealing,killing etc..............christians and muslims,hindus etc all preach about doing good but murder each other quite often .all in the name of the great god they worship.............then there are catholics vs protestant.sunni vs shia...............
some prof came up with the idea that we are all hardwired to fear snakes.........i think we are all hardwired to be nasty........look at history........the bad are more famous then the good..........(perhaps he meant the human kind of snake)?
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david hobbs
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| billy nomates wrote: | seems to me that we are programmed to be good.........dont do this -dont do that-...............yet while we do so then others just do what they want-
stealing,killing etc..............christians and muslims,hindus etc all preach about doing good but murder each other quite often .all in the name of the great god they worship.............then there are catholics vs protestant.sunni vs shia...............
some prof came up with the idea that we are all hardwired to fear snakes.........i think we are all hardwired to be nasty........look at history........the bad are more famous then the good..........(perhaps he meant the human kind of snake)?  |
Or is it that some people are programed to hate and are told that they are good.
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billy nomates
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could be...........the germans killed the jews,now the jews kill the palestinians......who is good ?
just a point of view if we can look at it in a detached way...
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evergreen
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comes down to choice... sometimes it is harder to stand up and glook bad in the eyes of others than to walk away and be seen as good....
morals to me are often misplaced guidelines. Honestly how does turning the other cheeck help anyone? it makes you a victim and the other person an attacker.... why not stand up and say dont' hit me why not learn to embrace the part of you that is dark and use it when needed use the full power that is you
I dont' know if we are shadow and light I think we are more male and female with lots of grey and very little real black or real white.. that is balance in my mind
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david hobbs
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I remember now that I was once told that there is no dark and light, only grey.
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Raymond
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You were told wrong then Mr. Hobbs.
We are all made up of light and dark, black and white, male and female. We cannot be made of grey because grey has no opposite.
White Witches are weak. Black Witches are weak. Grey Witches don't exist.
The true witch is black and white.
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david hobbs
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I think that there is only grey because we are both dark, and light.
What the man meant when he said there is no black or white was that you do as you wish, and all is valid.
Personally I don't see any need to be either dark or light. Just being is fine for me.
I don't much bother with the ethics anymore.
I never considered any shades of right and wrong either.
Light, dark, good and bad.
It begins to sound like any other religion/belief based upon judgement.
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meiah
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Go back to the beginning of this thread, and apply that thought
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david hobbs
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Yes a lot of what is on this forum is totally belief based as is any religion.
Whether we are paranormal enthusiasts or Christians or Muslims we are all living a belief system and belief will never be truth.
At least that's what I believe.
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Samjaza
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Of finding the dark side of yourself.
Had a very powerful and lucid dream once.
I was in a cabin and there was a knock on the door. I knew I shouldn't answer it. But I did.
I saw myself standing there with wild eyes and a maniacal laugh. It was my Mr Hyde, my ego madness. I think that stopped me venturing to the "dark side" I half expected the damned creature to point to a light saber and say, "Use the force, strike me with it, you know you want to, feel the rage..." etc.
Awful dream. Kept me awake for many a night. This was the culmination of my phobia I had for years;- Monophobia. I hated being alone with myself. Always had a dog or a female or crashed round mates houses. On my own i used to drive myself nuts. After this dream I think I faced my demon and actually enjoy my own company now.
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david hobbs
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| Samjaza wrote: | Of finding the dark side of yourself.
Had a very powerful and lucid dream once.
I was in a cabin and there was a knock on the door. I knew I shouldn't answer it. But I did.
I saw myself standing there with wild eyes and a maniacal laugh. It was my Mr Hyde, my ego madness. I think that stopped me venturing to the "dark side" I half expected the damned creature to point to a light saber and say, "Use the force, strike me with it, you know you want to, feel the rage..." etc.
Awful dream. Kept me awake for many a night. This was the culmination of my phobia I had for years;- Monophobia. I hated being alone with myself. Always had a dog or a female or crashed round mates houses. On my own i used to drive myself nuts. After this dream I think I faced my demon and actually enjoy my own company now. |
This brings up a whole new topic which I shall put in the dreams section.
In the meantime carry on talking about your dark side.
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Raymond
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I love being by myself. It's other people that give me raving nuts.
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evergreen
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I've got a darkside of course I do she is the raving mad banchie that screams and is jealous and wants attention.. sometimes I let her out when I think its safe no one can see and I find all she wants is attention from me...
the darkside needs to be heard and attended or one day it might blow up the rest of you (a bit like that achy breaky heart)
*insert mad evil delighted face*
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david hobbs
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I had a meditation similar to the one that Sam posted above. In fact I started this thread by quoting it, I "saw" my dark side, and it does come as a bit of a shock because let's face it I'm a perfect human being, just as you are.
Think about the things that you would never put on this forum. That is perhaps your dark side.
Of perhaps it is the part of you that makes you human.
Your dark side, no matter what form it may take is not the part that others in contemporary society consider to be horrible vicious or cruel about you, but the part of you that fills you yourself with revulsion shortly before you push it to the back of your mind and try to hide from the reality of what you are capable of thinking and doing.
Your dark side is yours alone, only you can feel it, as is your spiritual side.
I do hope I haven't provoked too many nasty images.
If I have, then job done
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