Most Haunted Live... the antics of Antix

Tommy · Most Haunted Live... the antics of Antix

Now I don't know what you lot think of the Most Haunted phenomenon, but I'm sure David has strong views on this...

The Most Haunted team seem obsessed with raising the very worst evil spirits and bringing them into the atmosphere, provoking them with insults and even encouraging them to do things to people. They maintain they are in control and have the means and knowledge to get rid of any evil entities they bring up. But do they? Is there a risk they might open a channel to the underworld which cannot be closed? Is there a risk they might end up bringing some very powerful negative entities into our World and actually cause a lasting threat?

To make a comparison... would you drop bombs down a volcano crater to see if you can cause a massive eruption?

Who was the "Jake Hell" that they contacted on their weedgy board? And the fact that he appeared to be following the team from one location to another suggests that the team may now be permanently plagued by this evil entity. So do you feel that the antics of the team are now becoming dangerous? Should they have stuck to haunted houses and just finding out who has passed from Earthly life in these places, rather than continually trying to drag up the worst of the worst?

stuart1976 · reply

i think that the most haunted team are not taking the events very seriuosly,and just thinking of the ratings of telly and their bank balance ,not actually knowing the problems they are causing {or can cause } towards themselfs and others who happen to be there after them.
without total knowledge or respect towards the unknown is as u say a cause for disaster.
we have never really seen and eveidence of paranomal on the show ,apart from screaming and wobbly cameras from where their always running away from the so called evidence.
if it is true that they do have a spirit following them who does it stay with the most and why,that is the question,i understand that spirits are very good liars for some reason and why we dont know why,so if this is a spirit with bad intentions ,they have brought upon them selfs do deal with their own actions ..........

david hobbs

I managed to watch ten minutes of one program ages ago and turned it off. What absolute crap.

I then found that some people, OK young ladies, who were new to investigating felt that they needed to scream and jump at every sound that we heard on investigations which p****d me of more than you can ever imagine.

It is a program made by fools and watched by bigger fools, no offense Tommy.

It is arse gravy.

Lilly

Methinks Tommy has lost his remote control [underneath all those clocks] or maybe needs to get out more?
oh! DON'T FORGET; every time you watch this 'evil spirit' invoking crap...you put the ratings up,and we will be served more rubbish like this on the box which makes spiritualism a laughable subject.
I can't watch it personally,it embarrasses me and I fear I may damage my telly when the screaming starts [and never ends] PDT_Aliboronz_30

Kas

Very nice people. I won't have a word said against them.

Raymond

Am I the only person who watches this show for what it really is?

Most Haunted is no more a representation of Paranormal Investigation than EastEnders is of life in the east end of London.

It's fiction. It's scripted. It's all planned. I really don't understand people who watch it and then get all uptight.

Anyway, seeing as how it's on the Living channel I'd rather watch Most Haunted than another documentary about Jordan's tits or Kerry Catona's latest nervous breakdown.

Kas

We have been over this so many times now.

http://ghe.myfreeforum.org/about692.html&highlight=haunted

Tommy

Bravo

That's a good point. A lot of programmes are scripted in such a way as to not appear scripted. Never Mind The Buzzcocks is one example where they go to great length to make it look as though a funny remark was 'off the cuff'.

I don't know if MH is scripted or not, but that is a good point that surely they'd have better scripts.

Kas, have you been a witness to the actual filming? Or do they make you bugger off for that?

Kas

Your allowed to be present behind the camera during filming of intro's and feeds etc but not actual vigils. They do work off a rough script.
You have to remember that they have done so many now they can virtually do it off the cuff.
I would say they have a pretty good idea what will happen in a vigil before hand. It's not hard to ad-lib in those situations or re-take if it didn't quite work the first time.

A few hours worth of filming can be edited into a two night investigation.
Therefore I would say if your filming the following days invo's at the same time as the first days then they must be following a script.

Raymond

I would imagine the series is a little closer to proper investigation but the live shows would have to be scripted, or at the very least a rough outline.

No TV station in the world would broadcast a live 3 hour show on the format of "let's just see what happens".

Are you mad?

Kas

Lilly

Resident parapsychologist Dr Ciaran O'Keeffe has sensationally lifted the lid on the ghosthunting series, Most Haunted ... and claims that the public are being deceived by "showmanship and dramatics."

He accuses the show of hoodwinking viewers by pretending to communicate with spirits and obtaining information about locations prior to filming.

The Mirror has also obtained unedited footage which appears to show presenter Yvette Fielding and her husband faking 'paranormal' occurrences such as ghostly bumps and knocks.

Most Haunted has quickly achieved cult status since it was launched in 2002 and is LivingTV's most successful programme.

Millions of viewers tune in regularly to watch Ex-Blue Peter girl Yvette and her team of ghost hunters spend the night in some of Britain's most haunted locations.

Yvette Fielding has said of the show - which is made by her husband Karl Beattie's production company Antix Productions: "There is no acting in this programme, none whatsoever. Everything you see and you hear is real. It's not made up, it's not acted."

But our investigation reveals how the programme uses careful editing to mislead viewers and, on at least one occasion, has even lied about the location of filming.
Cry

Tommy

That is actually quite an old article. I'm not entirely sure where I read it but I know I read it somewhere. I believe it came out sometime around Derek Acorah's "Creed Kaifer" incident.

Do we know who wrote the article? Do we know that Ciaran O'Keefe's words were used fairly and accurately?

Lilly

Raymond

I'm sure if Ciaran O'Keefe had said all that he wouldn't still be working on the show.

Kas

Ciaran O'Keeffe is a close personal friend of Yvette and Karl.

Fact.

Of course, the Mirror always writes factual stories and would never dream of making something up to boost sales.

david hobbs

I have been involved in two investigations that followed up a Most Haunted investigation.
One was the Law Courts at Chelmsford where the security guard assured us the M H was working to a script. Apparently at one stage Derek was descending the staircase and someone pointed out that there was an event in that spot and Derek immediately began acting as if he had picked it up when he obviously had not.

The second was rather more serious. East Cottage is a remote building in Suffolk. A young couple live there and when Akorah and crew turned up he began to give the some nonsense about the land being cursed and black majik rituals taking place there and that the should move.

We found nothing of the sort but we did pick up loads of stuff which was then verified by a local historian.

Dereks stuff was not.

We had to sort out his mess really and help the residents to come to terms with the place they lived in.

So sorry Tommy but it is scripted and adlibed as well.

Kas

I know I keep harping on about Will Storr's book but the section in it where he describes when he was involved with the filming of MH is well worth a read.

Tommy

The media in general is one big swirling mess of wheat and chaff. It doesn't matter to them whether you see more wheat or chaff, as long as it swirls in an interesting way.

david hobbs

Raymond

A couple of years ago the BBC sent a small film crew to film my coven (at the time) doing our Winter Soltice ritual.

They assured us they would be out of sight and we wouldn't know the were there.

For the duration of the actual ritual, I must admit, they did keep in the background, but when it was over we had to literally re-enact parts of the ritual just for them.

It was freezing cold and we were there until after 11 that night. The resulting clip was made up of mostly re-enactments with very little of the actual ritual.

I'm always suspicious when a TV show goes out "live". You can bet your ass it's been rehersed for weeks.

Kas

I was once present at the New Years Eve addition of "Night Fever".
A karaoke quiz show hosted by Suggs on Channel 5. We filmed it in August. Felt really strange being christmasy and doing the big ben count down.
They filmed everything back to front. We did the ending first, the start last and everything in the middle was jumbled up.

It went out, apparently live! lol

What Raymond said reminded me of something i watched the other day.
The making of the series 'The World at War'.
Jeremy Issacs was explaining they had a nightmare with the actual war footage that they got from the imperial war museum (where i'm off to tomorrow). They had thousands of miles of footage but a lot of it had been staged. They would reenact certain events and battles etc. for the cameras.
The Russians even did it with the battle of Stalingrad.

Tommy

Kas

matt

david hobbs

Well I don't even know what channel it's on Matt.
If I knew I would take a peek at it.

I think that interest in the paranormal has peaked for now and shows like this must become more sensational in order to attract viewers.

Tell me has anything substantial in the way of evidence emerged from any of all the hundreds of hours of air time given over to this subject?

meiah

I'm not sure that they are looking for anything concrete. Its an experience, not a study.

I'm not sure that most people who go on ghost hunts really know what they are looking for. And if you don't know what you are looking for, how do you know if you have found it?

If you go looking for proof that something exists, surely you must know what that something is in order to find it, and so prove it exists.

laura

i believe its having a hypothesis and within a group trying to prove/ disprove it... the interesting thing is everyone within the group will have their own hypothosis and it is when all of these are compared that you can draw your own conclusions.

david hobbs

I just wish that I had an hypothesis.

I have had so many over the years that I have run out.

Each time I come up with one which at the time is absolutely carved in granite something comes along to challenge it.

laura

but for every experience that you have, does that not just make your hypothosis evolve?

david hobbs

It makes my head spin

OK here's an hypostythingy then.

We exist to think the impossible into being possible thus evolving all potential into manifestation.

Phew.

Need a lie down now.......

I've shown you mine now let's see your's

meiah

Similar to yours.

We are here to show "that which is everything" what it is, which we do by the illusion of being seperate.
Being seperate we have our own perspective, and so experience everything differently.
We are, ourselves, thoughts, and can experience thoughts as thoughts, or as physical.
Our thoughts ARE our reality, as we are thoughts ourselves, which we percieve to be real.

david hobbs

Oww your just saying that!!!!!

meiah

Couldn't do it again if you asked me!!!

Thought you are supposed to be in Cornwall?

Most Haunted Live... the antics of Antix

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