david hobbs
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Light switches and energyIn previous thread it was suggested that a light switch could be manipulated ie turned on and of by energies.
I can't remember if any specific energies were mentiond but would like your take on the concept, especially if you can relate it to a personal experience.
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meiah
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I have experienced light bulbs blowing frequently when I was first practicing with Reiki and other energies. Never been able to turn them on and off though.
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evergreen
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yes light and radios turning on and off and the television too... also had a clock that use to chime out of no where........
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david hobbs
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But the question was.
How can energy turn on a Light switch?
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evergreen
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well how can anyone really answer that.. it is an unknown is it not?
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david hobbs
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Well I was hoping for a good theory or two.
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Sia
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Ive thinking hard on this , as you can imagine, and I'm just coming up blank .
Just as well I'm a female writing that 
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david hobbs
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That's the thing about questions of this nature.
Your mind just won't go through the wall to get the answer.
The thing is that these sorts of questions are answered better in meditation than when we try to think of the answer.
So how's about we meditate on the topic and see what we get.
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meiah
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Right now......logically, electricity flows round a circuit and so the bulb lights.
When you turn off the switch, you break the circuit.
So, if the circuit was complete the light bulb would come on.
So, to turn on the light you must complete the circuit.
We know that electricity will take the path of least resistance, so does energy then provide an alternative easier path for the electricity to flow along?
Or, as energy is a force to do something, just as electricity is a form of energy, when light bulbs come on when the switch is turned off, is an alternative form of energy acting like electricity in order to turn on the light?
Are you saying the switch was turned on or the bulb was lit?
If the switch was turned on, then that would require a form of energy that was acting as a physical force (not so bizarre what you think that both light and heat can act as a physcial force)?
Oh, was supposed to be meditating 
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evergreen
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well in truth I think if you want to ask others their theory then it is polite to present your own ha
I think things can be moved it takes a lot of energy often I think the energy if coming for the people in the house
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david hobbs
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| evergreen wrote: | well in truth I think if you want to ask others their theory then it is polite to present your own ha
I think things can be moved it takes a lot of energy often I think the energy if coming for the people in the house |
I sat and wrote about three hundred words in reply to this post.
Pressed the button and guess what.... Gone.
Must have been the wrong theory or another incident.
I shall do it again and be more careful the next time.
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evergreen
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ha!
don't you just hate that moment when you see that your post isn't there
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david hobbs
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| evergreen wrote: | ha!
don't you just hate that moment when you see that your post isn't there |
I have done it more than once and always on lengthy posts.
Anyway back to the topic. In my case how can an electric plug that I have removed from it's socket be back in place without being touched.
It's no good using old ideas like ghosts and spirits doing it because to me, although not totally out of the question it just does not feel right.
You have to think outside of the box so here goes.
I am consciousness learning to realise itself through perceived material experience.
But is that all that I am. Am I also the experience itself.
I believe that I have a body and that is the extent of my physical self, but is it.
Perhaps the wall plug and I are both experiencing existence because the plug is part of my conscious creation.
Perhaps what I perceive as beyond me is not, but is me and I am communicating with my self in symbols and actions rather than with language.
How many times does the plug have to show me that my thinking and perceptions are not correct.
On the other hand perhaps I put the plug back in the wall and just plain forgot.
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meiah
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Ok.
In my mind, there is a difference between potential anchored in physicality (reality, stuff, plugs etc) and potential not yet manifest (possibilities).
The difference is in how we interact with it (experience)
When possibilities turn to reality, they have an effect on the other things in reality (remember that is is all just possibilities anyway, its just how we percieve it), and so your reality changes.
So, if in the case of a light swichting itself on, without anyone pressing the switch, or a plug in the wall that you are sure you unplugged before.......are you experiencing a change in your reality based on possibilities becoming manifest?
Now the problem with this theory, is that as David has said, that it takes a viewpoint of "this is me and that is not me".
This is the way we experience things. If we saw all as being "me" all the time, you could not experience "me", as all experience is also "me", including all possiblilities, and so there is nothing to experience, as it as all "me".
In order to experience and learn about what "I" am, I have to interact with something else that is not "me".
Hence, seperateness.
When you look at it from the viewpoint that all is potential / mind / consciousness / whatever you wish to call it, then a light turning itself on with no interference is the most natural thing. The light has two potential states. On or off. because it has two potential states, and both exist equally, then the light at any given time is indeed in both states, not one or the other, but both.
You choose which one you beleive it should be in based on experience and learned knowledge, but at the root, it is still a choice, not what is actually there, when reality is defined as "possible states of a light bulb"
(whew)
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david hobbs
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That is a good theory.
The thing is who or what decides on the the form that the manifestation of the potential takes. It's no good to say that there are lots of states of potential without moving on the the mechanics of the thing.
How does potential make rational decisions?
My material self removed the plug. Did some hidden part of my consciousness decide it would be a great experience for me to discover it back in the wall.
Or perhaps something that is outside of me decided for reasons known only to it, that the plug should go back into it's socket.
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meiah
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You decide. It is your reality.
Which aspect of you decided? You'd have to ask yourself that. It is all you anyway, there is no divide, no seperatelness. That in itself is an illusion.
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david hobbs
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I cannot play with you anymore.
You have it.
Till the next step anyway 
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evergreen
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maybe it has to do with time travel
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david hobbs
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| evergreen wrote: | | maybe it has to do with time travel |
That's a possibility but how would it work?
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