david hobbs
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Letting goI let go the shadow and embrace the self.
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meiah
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what is the self without the shaow?
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david hobbs
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| meiah wrote: | | what is the self without the shaow? |
What is a shaow? 
I don't like to say it but the red vino is definately stronger these days.
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Raymond
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Are we really going to go into 09 with more of this?
Here's one, let go of the armchair philosophy and move forward without it.
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david hobbs
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It's not armchair because I use it to good effect when I work with people.
You would be suprised what I have learned from the quickening.
There's er and.......er
happy new year.
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Raymond
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Whatever.
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david hobbs
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Raymond.
I can only supply the words, not the brains to understand them
I loved using that one when I was a market grafter.
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Bravo
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That's a cracker Mr Hobbs, I think I'll put that to one side of the brain for future reference
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david hobbs
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| Bravo wrote: | | That's a cracker Mr Hobbs, I think I'll put that to one side of the brain for future reference |
You mentioned hugging and I said nothing but this is out and out plagiarism.
Oh it is new year so here's a new agey huggy wuggy then.
Oh and use it. It is a good one.
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GenieDi
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Off topic, but were you on Romford Market at all David
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david hobbs
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| GenieDi wrote: | | Off topic, but were you on Romford Market at all David |
I was thirty years ago. A bit before your time I would think. Thinking on I suppose the last time was about twelve years ago.
I sold demonstration lines the last on of which was called the Magimat. I still sell it but through the internet these days.
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GenieDi
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I was born in Dagenham, used to got to the market with my mum all the time, we also used to go to Roman Rd one just as much.
Mum lived in Chadwell Heath for over 25 years after almost 20 in Dagenham and only recently moved.
So I would say yes I did go to Romford Market well over 30 years back 
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david hobbs
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Then at some time or the other you probably did see me there.
And before you ask I don't do money back!!!!!
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GenieDi
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Ha ha...nutter!!!
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david hobbs
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You have me sussed madam
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GenieDi
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He he.... do they sell on Ideal World I'm sure I've seen something similar if not.
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david hobbs
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| GenieDi wrote: | | He he.... do they sell on Ideal World I'm sure I've seen something similar if not. |
I sold them live on Ideal World for three years. Live TV you know scary.
I did well until they pinched the line.
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GenieDi
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They seem to be good at that!! I dont watch them that often these days but remember those mats!
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david hobbs
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I just remember the money I made from it.
I am still spending it.
I worked with all of the presenters and learned an awful lot about working to cameras. i was used to a live crowd and didn't have a clue what to do when i first went on TV.
You would not believe how something that looks so smooth is mostly done on a wing and a prayer.
Happy days.
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GenieDi
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I belong to a couple of sites that concentrate on the shopping tv channels, now and then there are a few moans and groans about various presenter etc.
On the craft one I use a couple of the IW craft guests do go on and you hear a story from time to time of what it's like, not much gossip though! Think I would find it very difficult to do something like that.
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GenieDi
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Would you do it again or are you happy working via the internet
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david hobbs
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Once a grafter always a grafter. It gets into the blood. I used to be a door to door vacuum salesman believe it or not. Well I was only eighteen and the money was good
I would do TV again with all the luvies but not exhibitions.
I worked from a very young age and now I do as little as possible.
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GenieDi
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Sounds good to me
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Raymond
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| david hobbs wrote: | | I can only supply the words, not the brains to understand them |
Very good Hobbs, well done. As it's new year and all that crap I'll let you have that one but try it on again and I'll rip your face off.
Both of them.
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david hobbs
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| Raymond wrote: | | david hobbs wrote: | | I can only supply the words, not the brains to understand them |
Very good Hobbs, well done. As it's new year and all that crap I'll let you have that one but try it on again and I'll rip your face off.
Both of them. |
I am a Gemini. Oh and you will use it yourself one day.
No charge !!
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Kas
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| GenieDi wrote: | | I was born in Dagenham, used to got to the market with my mum all the time |
I was born in Barking Hospital and brought up in Dagenham till I was ten. Loved going to the market on a Saturday morning as this usually meant I could go in the toy shop on the corner of the arcade and get a starwars figuire or something. Can't think what it was called now. Used to come out of there and then my mum would by me a burger in the Wimpy next door as a treat. The market was great then. I last went a few years ago and was dissapointed to find that all the stalls seemed the same. They all sold the same crap.
Remember the leather stall? The smell of the leather was incredible.
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GenieDi
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I was born in Rush Green Hospital. Lived in Barking for a year before moving this way.
The one toy shop I can remember was I think opposite Woolies near Brentford Nylons at that time, this is going back a long time though. I married in 1980 and haven't been to the market much since, can probably count the times on one hand, and at least 15 years since my last visit.
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Raymond
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I was born in Mile End Hospital.
Are we collecting places of birth or something?
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GenieDi
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This is the first site I've ever been on where there are people from the same place I am.
Mile End is that near Bethnal Green etc??
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Raymond
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Yeah not far, just up the road.
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GenieDi
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I started researching my family tree in 2000 and have several lines from that part of London.
Useless at geography though - still!
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david hobbs
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Half of the people in Essex have east London roots.
The rest arrived in horse drawn caravans some years ago and mostly became domesticated.
The lucky ones didn't
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mark
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very good david
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Raymond
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And let's not forget the 'white flight' of the late 80's and 90's.
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david hobbs
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Yes that's true.
In the 70s and 80s many white Londoners did see their communities being split up and changed around due to the number of immigrants coming into the country.
I ended up in a village and guess what. The locals mostly regarded me with suspicion and it was years before I even got a good morning from them.
Some still walk past me in the street even though I have been here for twenty years.
I am an immigrant and I have some idea how it feels to be so.
As Meiah would say.
It's a matter of perspective.
Having said that I wouldn't move back to London ever.
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Raymond
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Leaving London is an odd thing.
My parents were part of the white-flight and left London about 10 years ago.
They didn't take the usually route to Essex they moved to Kent instead.
My Dad loves it but my Mum would happily come back tomorrow.
I love London. I was born here and it's what I know. I love all the noise and dirt and hussle-bussle.
I really don't think any other city anywhere on the planet has the charm, personality or magic that London offers.
Having said all that, I am ready to leave. Not because I want to get away from anyone or anyting (although at times I do feel a bit like a foreigner in my own city) but I just feel I've 'done' London.
I've no idea where I would like to live and knowing me I'll probably spend another 10 years thinking about it but I know I want to leave London while I still love it and not wait until I start to hate it.
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meiah
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There's a lot to be said for living on the periphery of village life, and dipping in and out when you choose.
I lived here 19 years ago, moved away then came back two years back.
When I went into what was my local, someone I knew way back moved off my chair so I could sit down, and the conversation resumed pretty much the same as it was 19 years back.
I am once again a local, but just immerse myself when I want to (doesn't really matter, everyone knows everyone elses business anyway......and looks out for each other)
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Raymond
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I don't think I could cope very well with small village or even suburban life.
My parents' live in a very typical suburban area, ever seen 'Desperate Housewives'? well that's where my Mum and Dad live.
While it's nice that everyone up and down the street knows each other, like Meiah says, they also know all your business as well.
I've got nothing to hide but I could imagine that getting on my tits after a while.
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GenieDi
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A couple of years after I married we moved into Colchester, we were there 18 years and I liked it. Due to financial/work problems we sold up, rented a couple of years and then bought a place in Parkeston near Harwich, was there 8 years and never felt like I fitted in there, people ignored you etc. Since I have moved here a couple of months ago, I am again starting from scratch don't know anyone here at all, but my daughter was given a flat nearby a month ago, so thats made things better in some ways, especially for my son.
I have never really felt like I belong anywhere though!
Think thats why i started my family history, to try and get some sense of who I am.
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evergreen
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I moved from Ireland to Australia to Tasmania and now I'm heading to another part of Australia- I've never lived Victoria I looking forward to new things and new ways... I love new places and new people ...
I also intend on moving back to the UK for a period in the not too distant future say ten years.
I've found that people are the same no matter where I go if you scratch under the surface, though they do have different regional traits and the like... Sydney was a great place to live but I have no desire to return at all.. visiting family is my absolute limit for now
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Raymond
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We should think about organising a meet up for when EG moves to the UK. I think 10 years should be enough time to get our fingers out.
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evergreen
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yes I know a long way off... I may come for a holiday first :) I'd let u know be nice to meet face to face I wonder if we'd all like each other as much ? 
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Raymond
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I'd love to have a meet up of all of us. Somewhere nice with plastic glassses and crash mats.
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Diana
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| david hobbs wrote: |
I am a Gemini. ! |
that explains a lot
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wackyjacky
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Good idea Raymond! 
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