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| KathUCH |
Just a thought.During my limited time ( 3 months) working as a student in a psychiatric hospital I met several patients who were convinced they heard voices.Some of these people had other symptoms of a psychiatric illness so it was more plausible to put the voices in their heads down to illness. Others less so. We all know there are people wrongly diagnosed/placed in units under psychiatric care,and I often wonder if any of these patients/people actually heard voices that may be classed as paranormal in origin ? Any thoughts or indeed any experience or knowledge of this would interest me greatly. Hope all well out there ! Thanks ! 
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| Sian |
You've hit on a question I've asked in the past. Am I hearing spirits/dead people/whatever or am I crazy mad.
If I went to a doctor and said that sometimes I can communicate with people who aren't here and I get messages etc I would be locked up. If I went to a spiritualist church or somewhere similar I would be accepted and someone with a gift. I think it all comes down to what the voices are saying. A message from a departed old lady..."Tell Brenda to look in the bottom drawer" is very different from a message from Belezebub saying "The nurses are poisoning your tea" |
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| david hobbs |
I have asked myself this too.
I think it must also be down to the behaviour of the person hearing the voices. People hearing "spirit" and going to Spiritualist churches are showing that they are still in charge of their lives. People hearing voices and spreading shit on the living room carpet are apparently not. Where do you draw the line. I knew a lady who was perfectly normal and was communicating with her"guide"who was passing on very accurate information. One day the Guide told her that a ship full of explosives was about to blow up in the Thames Estuary and take out half of the nearby towns. It never happened. So as I say. Where do you draw the line. |
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| mark |
as you say david ,look at the behaviour of the person ,and i agree if the person recieves a message and it is wrong ,then maybee what guide gave the message was it the same one who usually gave accurate messages ?if so it is a bit worrying | ||||||
| matt |
Maybe there isn't a line to be drawn? Seems a bit daft to say that if you hear good things your sane and if you here bad things your crazy, the fact is both are hearing things. From a skeptics point of view your both crazy, from a believers maybe there some sort of negative entity afflicting the people who are hearing bad things. If a negative entity wanted to brake somebody then the easiest way to do that would probably be to have them shunned by society and have them question there own sanity. |
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| david hobbs |
What if you do not believe in guides? Good Guide bad Guide. It feels wrong to me somehow. Just like God and the devil are just nonsense. |
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| evergreen |
yeah good point..
I don't really go for evil spirits in the first place. for me there is a big difference between the two one is a mental illness the other not....and there is no way of proving it.. |
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| david hobbs |
Funny that we question voices in the head be they positive or negative. Do we question that some people are fantastic pianists and some wonderful mathematicians. Of course we don't. |
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| evergreen |
here here.. all I want to type is I am sick of being questioned.... I don't question me and that is all that matters | ||||||
| matt |
ok, fair enough your right i'm wrong.
The only point i was getting at was that as a medium you are dealing with entities that are seperate from yourself and just like physical human beings can be complete bastards that want to harm you i would have thought that there energy after death could have those same characteristics. Still at the end of the day i know nothing and am probably completly wrong. |
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| david hobbs |
Stop shop lifting and they will stop the questions |
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| evergreen |
Matt that isn't right and surely you know it..haha that make same right again yeah 
It makes sense that there are negative spirits I just dont' happen to think that they are controlling these people ... i'll tell you why I think this.. and this is the only reason way I think this and once again it can't be proved when someone comes to me for a reading and I hear loads of different voices in my head when I tune into them I am always told bi-polar or schizophrenia .... then the session usually goes on to talk about the drama and hardship in their life... when someone sits in from of me and ?I get a ringing in my ears I am told they are a medium or at least clair audient. I have to trust what I am given |
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| david hobbs |
Well here again I have to tell you Matt that I have doubts as to the separation between us and these "spirits" I like to think that everything is just another aspect of my own reality what ever that may be. Let's just say that I see it as a room that I occupy and invite "reality" in to amuse me for a while. That "reality " may contain spirits and ghosts and Matt and Evergreen. None the less it is only my room containing my reality and my thoughts and beliefs and I just re-arrange the furniture from time to time as my beliefs alter. |
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| evergreen |
I'll think on that thanks David |
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| david hobbs |
Don't make to much effort it was a rubbish joke anyway. |
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| evergreen |
:) no worries Dave | ||||||
| KathUCH |
Thanks for your input ladies and gents.
I think I'll try a bit of research on this one. Like all your thoughts on this but I would like to try to get some facts/figures/outcomes from true life stories if I can. I need a bit of a challenge so will keep you posted on what I find. |
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| evergreen |
darling LOL my life is true... hahaha | ||||||
| Diana |
[quote="Sian"]
I think it all comes down to what the voices are saying. [quote] also on how you act when you hear them. |
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| david hobbs |
I agree with you on this but to most medical people it seems that voices in the head requiredrugs.
In some case they are right and in some they are probably wrong. |
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| Diana |
speaking of medication all should read Dr. Peter Breggin's book Toxic Psychiatry to see what drugs are really doing.
www.breggin.com |
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| david hobbs |
I read a publication called What Doctors Don't Tell You.
It is an excellent monthly publication and often covers this sort of topic. |
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| KathUCH |
Where did you find that David ? I'd be interested to read that .
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| david hobbs |
If you google it you will get all of the info you need. | ||||||
| KathUCH |
Will do,thanks. |
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| Fluffy L |
I do feel that some people that lack something in some areas seem to be better in others. I mean better than what is normal.
Its like they have a gift to make up for the other things. My brother is like it. Thats what got me interested in this. |
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