Raymond
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I think I saw a UFO tonight.I had some friends round earlier this evening and I nipped outside to check on my guests' car.
It was about 8:45pm, quite dark but not pitch black.
There were no stars in the sky except one - but it wasn't a star because it was moving.
From where I was standing it would have been moving in a northeasterly direction. It was far too high to be an aeroplane.
I called one of my guests outside to look at it too and we watched it together for about 30 seconds and then it just vanished.
Completely vanished.
How odd.
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Waffle King
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Meteor? we're pretty much still withing range of the asteroid belt, and Earth turns into a shooting gallery so it was probally that mate, UFO's don't exist at night time, there isnt anyone able to film them
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Raymond
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Yeah probably.
It's a shame I didn't have the presence of mind to film it. I could have uploaded into YouTube and then IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TRUE!
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Raymond
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Although, the only thing about the meteor theory Waff is it must be remembered that I live within spitting distance of Canary Wharf.
The light pollution from that monstrosity makes even seeing regular stars pretty much a no-no so the chances of seeing a meteor round here are pretty slim.
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Waffle King
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Most surely Raymond, but it'd still contest the origins of the film and weither or not you'd taped over a previous video of the twilight zone just cos i can
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Raymond
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Hey, YouTube is a wonderful thing. It's given us 'The Gay Barbie Boys', 'The Numa-Numa Song', Perez Hilton and even 'The Angry Welsh Woman'.
All of them pioneers in their own field.
If it's good enough for David Icke then it's certainly good enough for me, gosh darn it!
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david hobbs
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Meteorites do not last for thirty seconds.
It could have been a satellite but from what you say about light pollution that is highly improbable.
I realise that like the rest of us you are familiar with the skies in your area so what exactly was it that made this object and it's behaviour stand out from the norm?
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Raymond
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Quite honestly, the fact that I could see it so clearly.
I never see stars here, unless they are really big or really bright. The only stars I regularly see is the north star and the morning star, and that's about it.
I definately know it wasn't a plane. I'm sure of that. It was far too high, and moving far too quickly.
I watched it for about 30 seconds on my own before I called my friend out then we watched it for the same time so it was visible for at least a minute.
Also, plane lights flash, there was no flashing and planes don't just disapear.
I know it wasn't a plane and the more I think about a meteor the less comfortable I feel about it.
The light pollution round here is dreadful. It's never fully dark. Even at 3 in the morning there's always an orange glow around. I can always clearly walk around my house without having to put a light on.
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evergreen
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well Raymond how exciting what did your friend think?
I've lived in Sydney so i understand the whole light pollution thing I hate not seeing the stars where I grew up it is still black at night and filled with billions of stars its beautiful
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Raymond
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My friend is as lost for an explanation as I am.
She just phoned me actually and was talking about it.
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david hobbs
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Who knows you may see another one tonight.
We instinctively know when something is different from the norm nd this seems to be so with this incident.
Thing is UFO means unidentified object and as such will always remain a mystery until identified.
Just as a little teaser for you Raymond there are many documented cases of people seeing UFOs and then having a complete life change.
But perhaps not.
Perhaps it was just a military craft or the slowest moving meteorite ever recorded.
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Raymond
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Incidents that have been life changing for some usually require the subject to be somewhat unhappy with their life to begin with.
I'm not unhappy with my lot.
I think it would take more than a light in the sky to turn me around.
I will certainly be out tonight looking again.
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david hobbs
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By life change I meant that they suddenly become psychic or having very strange experiences of a paranormal nature or find themselves pursuing a path that had not been apparent to them before.
It's all a part of UFO lore you can look it up.
I don't know if you are familiar with Christopher Martin.
He wrote a book called Intruders in the Night.
He lived and may still live in Bow just down the road to you by the big flyover.
He filmed UFOs on many occasions and his life got just a bit interesting. He would be inspired to go to, say, the top of a tall building in your area and sure enough a UFO would show up and he would film it.
I have met Chris several times and he is a nice bloke.
Some say he faked things but then they would say that wouldn't they.
So I guess what I am trying to say is that yes plenty of unidentifieds are seen in your area.
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Raymond
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Actually Lewisham has become something of a ufo mecca in recent years. If you're going to see a ufo in London then Lewisham is the place to be. That's not far from me.
As for life changing experiences - does walking around thinking you're naked count?
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david hobbs
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Showing you your greatest fears and vulnerabilities is a very good starting point.
UFOs do not just have the little green man dimension given to them by the media.
There is an overlap into the occult and metaphysical realms but again you do have to look and learn instead of just saying "Oh that's a load of nonsense".
Looking is something that we are discouraged to do for fear of being left looking foolish in public.
This fear is propagated by the media and by the way this is nothing to do with conspiracy. Which is by the way another term used by the media to encourage the dismissers.
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Raymond
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I see. It's not a conspiracy yet you fill your post with rant about the big bad media - okaaaaay.
Actually I agree with you to a point. And as for making myself look silly in public, that's something I got over years ago. I'd be more than happy to tell anybody I believe in fairies so saying I believe in UFO's is a snap.
Anyway, I never said I didn't accept the possibility of UFO's, I just said I've never personally seen one, and until I experience something first hand I have trouble accepting it - it's the same reason why I don't accept all the conspiracy stuff.
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david hobbs
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It was not a rant.
UFOs are always that last little mention on the news accompanied by that duo if grinning faces worn by what ever the he she reading team happens to be.
I must admit though that of late they do seem, for what ever reason to be taking it a little more seriously.
I have seen so I do believe.
But what it is that I am believing is is the thing that I ponder .
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K.J
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What you saw was a sattelite.
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Raymond
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Oh right, you were here were you?
Have you read the whole thread? About the light pollution and stuff?
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Raymond
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Mystery solved!
What I saw was one of 7thgen's 'Motherships'.
Gosh darn it! He was right all along.
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Pumpkin33
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It could of been a Chinese flying lantern?
they do travel very high and disapear just like that when the flame dies!!
I have released a few myself and I can see how they would be mistaken for a UFO, and when I say that I dont mean and alien spaceship!!
Why is it that whenever we see a light in the sky that looks and behaves differently to what you would normally see in the sky, e.g planes, helicopters etc we think it has to be a "UFO"? when ever my other half see's an odd looking light in the sky he becomes convinced it must be a UFO, silly boy!!
I am not saying I dont believe in there being another life form out in the cosmos somewhere but not everything strange in the sky has to be a UFO, thats just my opinion and I am sure you will discagree with me!!
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Raymond
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Not necessarily Pumpkin - welcome aboard, by the way - I think the term 'UFO' is a good one.
It's non-commital, Unidentifyed Flying Object - means it could be absolutely anything.
Flying saucer, spaceship, all of those kinds of words suggest it's some kind of alien craft.
It may have been an orb - or dust!!!
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david hobbs
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It may well have been a chineese Lantern.
If it was orange in colour and moving with the wind and at wind speed in a straight line then chances are that it was.
These things have been responsible for a lot of reported Ufo's.
I first went out on a case about four years ago when someone was testing them over Wickford in Essex.
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Raymond
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Hmmm, again I can't sit totally comfortably with the Chinese latern explanation, this thing was really high and I don't think a lantern would have been visible from that height, also why would somebody just set one off? Surely there would have been a group of them?
I dunno. It could have been all the things that have been suggested or it could have been none of them.
Who knows?
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ShadowPhoenix
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Well, Raymond....I've seen one...several actually. The first one was when I was 4. My mom told me someone must be shooting a movie...but that was a very small town, I doubt anyone would've even found the place lol. It was very low to the ground and white. I could even see that it had windows.
The second time was when I was in 5th grade walking up the driveway as I got off the bus. It was very high up in the sky and appeared about...ohhh maybe half the circumference of a dime. It moved back and forth several times then shot so fast in another direction that I couldn't even tell where it went, I almost screamed.
Recently, I've seen them, increasingly over the past year. In december last year...I think it was, there were about 4 or 5 that I saw in one night...the sky was pretty much crawling with them. I even played with them with a search light and guess what? They flashed back.
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Raymond
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| ShadowPhoenix wrote: | | I even played with them with a search light and guess what? They flashed back. |
No way!!! How fabulous. Isn't that one of the 'close encounters' on the list of alien encounters?
Whatever this thing was I saw it's the first time in my life I've seen something in the sky that was 'odd enough' for me to take notice - let's put it that way.
I've never really been all that interested in UFO's but this insignificant little experience has awoken something of an interest within me. I really would like to see more.
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ShadowPhoenix
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well lately, all I've been seeing were lights in the sky...at first I thought it was a star because it wasn't moving, but it was extremely bright. I noticed that after a minute or so it seemed to have moved 2 or 3 stars closer to me...well I'm not sure exactly how to word that but you get the general idea, correct?
Then, it started moving in a circular motion...I was shocked to see it do so and I knew it couldn't have been a satellite or plane because #1 planes simply do not move in that manner #2 Neither planes or satellites can move that quickly. So, I went back inside...(we're still in december or january I think lol) but I went to bed that morning thinking "what in the gay hell did I just see?" I went out every night...or morning rather (4AM) and for a week I did not see it, BUT exactly 1 week later that very next tuesday and at the same time, it was there again. That's when I decided to play with it haha...I even woke my roomate up and she came outside bitching cuz I woke her up and because she didn't believe in such things. I made a believer out of her that morning and she just couldn't believe her eyes and I still hadn't gotten over the excitement of it. We were going to record it, but the battery for the cam was dead.
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wackyjacky
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| Quote: | | the battery for the cam was dead |
Ain't that just the way huh!
This is a photo I took at work one day back in march....see what you make of it...
This is what I see...
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Raymond
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Interesting Wacky but it's difficult to say what it might be.
Obviously your eyes are telling you it's some kind of 'being in a bubble', because I'm a cynical old queen, straight away my brain tells me something flew in front of the camera at the moment of exposure - the camera strap, somebody's hand, an insect of some sort - even a tiny bit of paper blowing around in the wind that happened to float in front of the lens the instant you pressed the button.
That's the problem with photographs. They only capture a millisecond of time and the scene taken in the shot can change drastically from millisecond to millisecond.
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ShadowPhoenix
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I'm honestly not sure what to make of that, Ray...
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Raymond
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I know what you're thinking SP. No really I do.
Stop being so psychically open!
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ShadowPhoenix
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What do you mean?
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Waffle King
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It's a chink fishman in his funny hat!!
Someone had to say it, sorry Jaqs
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Raymond
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| ShadowPhoenix wrote: | What do you mean?  |
You were thinking it's a shadow person, right?
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ShadowPhoenix
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No, shadow people are...well...(normally) as black as the screen that I'm typing on.
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evergreen
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ShadowPhoenix
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What you laughin' at?
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Raymond
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Is this SP's first official argument on GHE?
It's all part of the initiation process y'know.
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ShadowPhoenix
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Oh really? Cuz I'll argue you all to death.
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Raymond
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Is that the sound of a gauntlet I hear being thrown down.
Oh SP, we've had some fantastic bust-ups on here in the past. Honestly, some of them have been absolute legends.
I love it.
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evergreen
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Sp... don't take anything to heart on here, just keep posting its very interesting to have someone with new things to talk about makes my brain work again :) ..
And I know what you mean about the shadow people they are just black ..
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david hobbs
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There's no such thing as shadow people.
Anyone who thinks there is must be barmey
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evergreen
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lol yeah that's right David.. push push
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david hobbs
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Yeh
Shadow people my bottom
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ShadowPhoenix
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..........Oh so Mr. Hobbs is a bottom?! Raymond may be the only person who gets that.
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Raymond
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| ShadowPhoenix wrote: | Raymond may be the only person who gets that.  |
LOL!
Well, he has just painted his house Barbie pink!
LOL!!!!!
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ShadowPhoenix
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Ewww...I'd hope not.
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Raymond
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Hey, come on.
It takes a brave man to live in a pink house.
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