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billy nomates

i have just started on a meditation course

raja yoga.using the intellect to reach the absolute soul......

it's my last attempt to make some sense of life.......

it has got me thinking though.......i definately am not the person on the inside that i appear to be on the outside.......as i child i had a really fun nature but a mixture of school and parents and then work has really altered how i look at life.......the teacher says that when we incarnate we change from pure spirit into something else..........

what and why have still to be revealed.......
evergreen

I would say relax.. have some fun get back to nature.. enjoy yourself find what really makes you laugh and you will find your deepest self....
billy nomates

my fun self still lurks beneath the surface but life keeps kicking me below the belt.

But thank you for your kind words.
meiah

Just let it sneak out now and again - scares people  
evergreen

billy nomates wrote:
my fun self still lurks beneath the surface but life keeps kicking me below the belt.

But thank you for your kind words.


you are welcome Billy

life can do that ... can be a real bummer I call them challenges ..

for me it helps it I change my thought patterns to pull me through those times...  I've just been dealt another blow in life's long list of things sent to test you.... hmm so some more mind alteration is needed  
billy nomates

meditated last night. a long time ago i had an epiphany......everything is false! every concept is an illusion,all dreamt up by.somebody!

i can hear the shouting now!!!!!!!hahahaha

but , if we accept that the absolute soul/god and ourselves are ONE then there can be NO separation,so therefore we do not have to do this or that to reach union because we are already joined.......

ramana maharshi used to ask...who are you?

well , in my meditation, i forced myself to look at how solid we and these ideas are.....it is a scientific fact that we are made up of atoms..inside an atom it is 99.99999% empty space...so what are we and the universe?
answer= nothing!

at this stage my imaginary body lit up with a blue outline similar to the tree of life..then a kind of pipe became evident,linking me to the absolute...........

pretty stonking stuff which i havent had for a long time..........
meiah

Wonderful!!

Maybe where you see nothing, I see potential to be.

When I talk of the illusion of seperation that our physicality gives us, this is much the same thing.
evergreen

there is also another way of looing at it.. there is no empty space just energy..

it sounds like you enjoyed yourself    SUPER!
david hobbs

The same thing is shown differently to different people.

It can simply be accepted and then we move on or it can be seen as the ultimate truth.  If there is such a thing as ultimate truth.

Seeing our connectedness does not change our lives, only we can do that.  It does however remind you that our lives are little sketches being performed for the sake of the performance and therefore in the scheme of things totally insignificant but at our level of awareness totally significant.  Holding on to that connectedness and living this life is the trick.

Not sure that's what I mean but never mind eh.
meiah

That sounds like having the ability to laugh at yourself.
david hobbs

meiah wrote:
That sounds like having the ability to laugh at yourself.



I new I shouldn't have let you read the Quickening threads.

The thing is that in laughing at ourselves we are stripping away the ego self.

Buddha seems to laugh an awful lot.
meiah

Hmmmm...the ego. My best and worst friend  
david hobbs

meiah wrote:
Hmmmm...the ego. My best and worst friend  




How so ?
meiah

Gives me my sense of "me". Isolates me.
Gives me my sense of who "i" am. Shows me who "i" am.
Protects me.....via fears.
david hobbs

meiah wrote:
Gives me my sense of "me". Isolates me.
Gives me my sense of who "i" am. Shows me who "i" am.
Protects me.....via fears.



Some would say that within isolation is connectedness.

Again the sense of who I am is an isolating concept.

Only some fears are protective of course.

Some are as illusory as this existence.
meiah

No arguments there.

Most fears "feel" protective, although they are not. Any fear really holds me back. Even the common sense ones. To fear a lion is natural, to understand its drives, why it acts like it does, and to respect that, still protects me, but without the need for fear.

Maybe thats why I try to understand things, because then I have no need for fear?
evergreen

yes I agree...  when things feel out of control or wrong to you..or fearful it is very helpful to go within to find your answers....

everyone can do it, everyone can find where their center and balance lays but not everyone is ready for it, Sometimes we have to have sign post to show us the way...  sometimes depression or fears are sign posts they can force you to go into isolation and in that you can learn more about yourself than you were aware of before the problem/trouble/mistake/illness.. what ever it was for you occurred in your life (or was faced)

ego is a great thing as long as you know when too feed your ego and when not to feed your ego and with what it should be fed  
meiah

My greatest moments of happiness come when I am in no way focussed on me.

My attention may be completely with someone else, or even on an object or situation. Watching someone learn something about themselves, gazing at a sunset over the sea, even the simple pleasure of a hot chocolate in front of the fire.
I am not thinking about myself, but myself is warmed, nutured.
In not looking at me and my wants, I receive everything i could possibly want.

Thinking of the soulmate thread, maybe this is the same thing. No-one else can give us fulfillment, that comes from within. But we (or certainly I) find my fulfillment by taking myself away from myself.
So maybe the "within" or "ourselves" we are talking about is not about "me" its about us being the sum of our interactions.

Whew. Need to let that one settle for a while and see if it still feels right later.

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