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Spirit Realm

Hello Everyone!

Thank you David for showing me this place and I hope to be posting real soon.
swanlady

Hi spiritrealm.
                   Welcome to the madhouse.xxx
Bravo

Welcome  
Raymond

Welcome to GHE Refugee camp.
david hobbs

Very funny Raymond.

Welcome to GHE. Spirit Realm.
wackyjacky

Hey SR, nice to see you here hun
Spirit Realm

*Wonders if I got myself into another wonderful looney bin.*  Lol, thanks you guys.  Hugs.
Bravo

I have to say I love your avatar and signature...did you make them yourself?
Raymond

Spirit Realm. Did we get along on SOS or did we fight like wild animals? I can't remember.
wackyjacky

   
david hobbs

There is a clue in the hugs and hun bit Raymond
Spirit Realm

Bravo wrote:
I have to say I love your avatar and signature...did you make them yourself?


Thank you, I did and I am just learning still.
Spirit Realm

Raymond wrote:
Spirit Realm. Did we get along on SOS or did we fight like wild animals? I can't remember.


We got a long Raymond and I do not remember ever fighting with you like a cat and dog but then again I am 41.  lol.
david hobbs

Bravo wrote:
I have to say I love your avatar and signature...did you make them yourself?


He's always nice to the ladies!!!!!!!!!
Hunter

Hi SR as raymond said welcome to the refugee camp lol
swanlady

Raymond never fights  
He just says it like it is  
Raymond

I do fight Swanny, with the elderly and very young as they are the only ones I stand a chance of winning against.
Everybody else gets a tongue lashing.
swanlady

Good morning Raymond.
Was wondering if you were working today or just busy getting ready for christmas.  Big Grin
Raymond

I am working later. I don't get stressed over xmas. I leave that to the Mother.
Spirit Realm

This year I am not stressing over Christmas but the fact my Sister is having a huge kidney stone removed tomorrow.

Thanks Hunter.

Now to beginning searching this place over and begin to post my fingers off.  LOL.
evergreen

Welcome Spirit Realm.. enjoy!

best wishes to your sister too.....
Spirit Realm

Thanks Evergreen I am glad you are here too.  Hugs.
swanlady

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Thanks Evergreen I am glad you are here too.  Hugs.


EG,s been here forever sr  Big Grin
Waffle King

Ello china, welcome to the collective, i mean forum, have fun Big Grin
Spirit Realm

China?  Thanks for the welcome.
Waffle King

Yes, China, as in China plate which is cockney for mate Big Grin
david hobbs

I think Spirit Realm has large gaps in her education Waff me old china.

Still she will soon talk proper like what I does given a little more time on the forum
Spirit Realm

Okay, I need a British dictionary since I am American.  LOL.  I have British ancestors but they came here over a hundred years ago.
Spirit Realm

Waffle King wrote:
Yes, China, as in China plate which is cockney for mate Big Grin


Thanks, I never heard that one before and I hope you will help educate me too.  Hugs.
Spirit Realm

david hobbs wrote:
I think Spirit Realm has large gaps in her education Waff me old china.

Still she will soon talk proper like what I does given a little more time on the forum


David you know us American cannot even understand fellow Americans.  LOL.
david hobbs

I suppose I had better explain.

A cockney is a person who is born in the City of London within the sound of the bells of Bow Church.

They have a way of speaking that is confusing because they often make a rhyme out of something.  This is called cockney rhyming slang.

For instance If I were to say to you. How's the trouble and strife these days.  I would mean how is your wife.

If I said that I was talking to Spirit Realm I might say that I was talking to  a Sherman.  Now this is where it gets complicated.

A Sherman in this instance would be a Sherman Tank, which would mean Yank soooo I would have been speaking to an American who is known as Spirit Realm.

And you think Americans are hard to understand.

Cockney rhyming slang evolves and changes so it is no good assuming that what you learn is carved in stone.

Bravo

Aye, n' it t'int only cockneys that are 'ard to understan tha knows.

If tha goes to South yorkshire, tha'll find the sen in a reet muddle as tha tries to understand folk.
david hobbs

Poor Spirit Real will need an interpreter.

I find the Highland Scott the hardest to understand and my grandfather was one.

I could understand him but that was when I was a child and he is long since dead.

When I worked the county shows in Scotland I used to dread trying to serve a Highlander because I did not understand one ruddy word they said.

They used to look at me as if I was an imbecile.

Come to think of it..........

Bugger......
Spirit Realm

*Looks more confused.*  Anyone whom wants to be my interpreter please let me know.

Seriously thank you David that is most helpful I love learning about anything.  Hugs.
Raymond

What a load of cobblers Hobbsy. All that guff about Bow Bells is nonsense. I know people as far out as Dagenham who call themselves cockney.

SR, it's best just to ask for explainations as we go along. Fortunately not many of us on here speak in rhyming slang so hopefully it won't be too much of a problem.

Just to clear up the original point. Calling someone a 'china' is a good thing.
It means 'China Plate', which rhymes with 'Mate'.

So if somebody calls you 'china' it means they are your friend.
david hobbs

Raymond wrote:
What a load of cobblers Hobbsy. All that guff about Bow Bells is nonsense. I know people as far out as Dagenham who call themselves cockney.

SR, it's best just to ask for explainations as we go along. Fortunately not many of us on here speak in rhyming slang so hopefully it won't be too much of a problem.

Just to clear up the original point. Calling someone a 'china' is a good thing.
It means 'China Plate', which rhymes with 'Mate'.

So if somebody calls you 'china' it means they are your friend.


Now you know as well as I do that a true cockney is born within the sound of Bow Bells so before opening yer north and south put your thinking titfer on and don't come out with that old malarky me old china.

He's getting to big for his ruddy daisies.
Raymond

You're talking tom tit.
swanlady

The boys are at it again.
Welcome home Raymond Big Grin
How did christmas go at your mums?
Raymond

It was lovely thanks Swanny. Everyone had the galloping gut-rots but apart from that it was great.

Yours?
Spirit Realm

Raymond wrote:
What a load of cobblers Hobbsy. All that guff about Bow Bells is nonsense. I know people as far out as Dagenham who call themselves cockney.

SR, it's best just to ask for explainations as we go along. Fortunately not many of us on here speak in rhyming slang so hopefully it won't be too much of a problem.

Just to clear up the original point. Calling someone a 'china' is a good thing.
It means 'China Plate', which rhymes with 'Mate'.

So if somebody calls you 'china' it means they are your friend.


Thank you Raymond, hugs.
Spirit Realm

Ruddy Daisies do I even want to know what that is?  Tom tit?  Man my head is spinning.
swanlady

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Tom tit?

That is Sh*t.
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Ruddy Daisies

Don,t ask me what that one is, i don,t have a ruddy clue what they are talking about half the time myself.  

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It was lovely thanks Swanny. Everyone had the galloping gut-rots but apart from that it was great.

Yours?


Glad you enjoyed yourself.
We,ve had a great christmas here. The twins are enjoying their wii.s. and the baby loves her motorised car.
I can,t bloody keep up with them though. jeez, i must be getting old.  Big Grin

Raymond

Spirit Realm wrote:
Ruddy Daisies do I even want to know what that is?  Tom tit?  Man my head is spinning.


Daisy roots = Boots

Tom tit = Sh*t

This should help;

http://www.phespirit.info/cockney/slang_to_english.htm

It does get more complicated when the whole of the rhyming slang phrase isn't used.

For example, 'Butcher's Hook' means 'look' and 'Tit for tat' means 'hat', but you wouldn't hear anyone say "Let me have a butcher's hook at your new tit for tat", they would say "Let's have a butcher's at your new titfa".

It really is quite complicated and even though I was born and raised and still live in the eastend there are still times when even I get confused.
Raymond

Now if you really wanted to get complicated I could teach you all 'Polari', the gay slang.
Spirit Realm

Then even if my Ancestors from England were alive then they too would need a interupter.  Thanks for the link Raymond that helps alot.  SwanLady that is a cute family picture.
Spirit Realm

Raymond wrote:
Now if you really wanted to get complicated I could teach you all 'Polari', the gay slang.


david hobbs

Raymond wrote:
Now if you really wanted to get complicated I could teach you all 'Polari', the gay slang.



I didn't know there was such a thing.
Hunter

It was really invented by Kenneth Williams and Hugh Paddick in the radio series Round the Horne in the '60s with the characters Julian and Sandy.
It's bases are a mix of Romany and cockney rhyming slang.
Raymond

Not quite true Hunter but near enough. I was actually involved in writing a book on the subject.

Nobody really knows when Polari was 'invented' but it's thought to have been widely used by romany gypsies way back as a secret 'language'.

At the end of the 1800's and the start of the 1900's it pretty much fell out of favour with the gypsies but somehow made the leap into the theatre community. Nobody really knows how or why that leap happened, maybe because a lot of the gypsies at that time were in the entertainment business, but we can't be completely sure.

It's easier to see how it made the leap from the theatre community into the gay community during the 1950's.
Gay people have a long association with the theatre so it isn't really a great leap.

In the late 40's and early 50's gay lifestyle began to become more prevalent. Gay pubs and establishments were slowly starting to open for business however gay people still had to be very, very careful when communicating to each other because their activities were still illegal in the eyes of the law.

When the gay community adopted Polari the whole slang took on a new meaning.
It all seemed to revolve around sexual encounters and socialising with other gay folk and keeping an eye out for "lily law" (The Police).

During the late 60's the slang was mostly well known in the BBC hit comedy show 'Round The Horne'.
Kenneth Williams and Hugh Paddick played a couple of obviously gay characters called Julian and Sandy whose exploits were heavily peppered with Polari.
The mostly hetrosexual audience had no idea what they were laughing at but it sounded funny so they laughed anyway, little did they know that instead of laughing at a 'couple of queers' the joke was on them.
Julian and Sandy's adventures nearly always saw the pair as getting the upper hand but because the listener didn't have clue what was being said they were blissfully unaware.

As anti-discrimination laws were passed one after the other there seemed little point in keeping a secret gay slang alive.
Into the 70's very few people, if any were still using it as there was no longer any reason to keep gay activities under wraps.

There was an attempt to revive Polari in the gay community during the mid-90's but many saw little point.

Today Polari is viewed as something of a by-gone era. A curious little thing that once was.
Even people like myself who know it, rarely use it.

It's important to remember however that not so long ago it meant the difference between a night of passion or a queer bashing for many, many people.

"Bona to vada your dolly old eeks, dears!"
Spirit Realm

Many people consider me a by gone era due to being over forty.
david hobbs

Spirit Realm wrote:
Many people consider me a by gone era due to being over forty.


But in fact the best is yet to come.

Mind you if you are forty years over forty then I could be wrong

They tell me that desert air preserves things very well.
Hunter

Spirit Realm wrote:
Many people consider me a by gone era due to being over forty.

You're not the only one over 40 . I often wish I was 10 years younger & so would be in my early 30s !
Raymond

I often wish I were 10 years younger and be back in my mid-20's.

When it comes to age why are we always looking back instead of forward?
david hobbs

Raymond wrote:
I often wish I were 10 years younger and be back in my mid-20's.

When it comes to age why are we always looking back instead of forward?



What's wrong with now?
Raymond

Indeed.
swanlady

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Spirit Realm wrote:
Many people consider me a by gone era due to being over forty.


Now i feel my best years have been my 40,s.
Learnt to drive when i was 42.
Had a new baby(Jade) when i was 45.
And had eye laser treatment when i was 47.

Life is what you make it. Just wish i realised that in my 20,s.
Spirit Realm

Well I still get accused of being in my twenties so I guess it ain't so bad.  Seriously I feel 80 due to raising me parents.  LOL.
Lilly

Spirit Realm wrote:
Many people consider me a by gone era due to being over forty.


Wish I could remember what its like to be forty...LOL

BTW, Raymond, Polari was invented by me!  "lily law" (The Police).  
Raymond

Very good Lily.  
Spirit Realm

Lilly wrote:
Spirit Realm wrote:
Many people consider me a by gone era due to being over forty.


Wish I could remember what its like to be forty...LOL

BTW, Raymond, Polari was invented by me!  "lily law" (The Police).  


I  thought you were younger then me Lily.
Lilly

Spirit Realm wrote:
Lilly wrote:
Spirit Realm wrote:
Many people consider me a by gone era due to being over forty.


Wish I could remember what its like to be forty...LOL

BTW, Raymond, Polari was invented by me!  "lily law" (The Police).  


I  thought you were younger then me Lily.



Bless you S.R. I'll give you a clue
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ8kMbMpQbo
Spirit Realm

Well Mom said 64 wasn't too bad besides you are as old as you feel.
stardust2

I would just like to say hi to all the members and I am looking forward to spending time here.    
Raymond

Awww bless! Stardust, you should have your own thread to welcome you here, everybody else gets one.

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