Do I though?

david hobbs · Do I though?

13th Thread: I practice random acts of kindness: anonymously wherever possible.

meiah

Now and again, I do. I don't make a point of it....it wouldn't be random then, would it?
Just picking up coins that someone has dropped to hand back to them, making a cuppa for someone else...they all count. And as for anonymously....sometimes. Picking up rubbish from someone drive. Taking the bins out for next door when she has forgotten. Scraping ice off Bryns windscreen when I do my own. Little things.

david hobbs

The thread is about not wanting to get something back for something given.

In this life we can give and take and there is no shame in either act.

But here is the thing.

What gives you the most pleasure and makes you feel truly you.

It has to be giving.

Taking lessens our self regard whereas giving gives us a sense of freedom.

I worked down petticoat lane as you all know by now and nothing gave me more pleasure than walking up to a drunk or a tramp and putting shit loads of money in their laps.

Not because I wanted praise but rather for two reasons.

Firstly I was better off than them but I could so easily have been them save for a few twists and turns in my life.

Secondly, giving sets you free.

Yes it really does.

evergreen

I do these things all the time too...

I've thought about it,m and its not for nothing because it makes me feels good ... so I do actually get something out of it

david hobbs

Funny thing this, now I think about it.

Getting rid of something in the material is liberating whereas obtaining some thing seldom is.

You cannot be tied to something you do not posses be it material, or of the mind.

Didn't Jesus say that rich people would have a hard time entering the kingdom of heaven.

Perhaps he meant heaven as being here and now otherwise what he say's makes no sense at all.

OK he may never even have existed but as an exercise just ask your self if he was right and did he REALLY mean Heaven.

meiah

For heaven.......read bliss.......enlightenment.......
For hell, read suffering, suppression, stagnation.......
For afterlife, think instead of a different state of being.....different to how you are now...not necessarily when you have no physical body.
For God, read mind.

Is it purely a confusion of a basic truth?
Was it really intended to be what we discuss on here anyway? (she says, taking it away from the politics, dogma, tool of oppression which is what mankind has chosen to do with it)

I wonder what would happen if you look at religion with the Quickening in mind. Would it look different?

david hobbs

Good observations here.

I never really know what we should discuss on here as it is more a forum for people who are interested in the paranormal and not just a paranormal forum.

They do have other interests so I guess it means that anything goes.

So does recieving entrap and giving release?

I know that there are always variations, but my general feeling is that giving frees you more than recieving.

meiah

Maybe like anything, it depends on the intention behind it.

My daughter saved for 3 months to buy me something she thought I would love. She got so much out of giving it. I got a tangible token of her love.
That didn't trap me. she expected nothing back. And actually, got nothing. Except a smile, and a hug, and now and again she catches me looking at it.

If you give in order to receive, that can trap you as much as receiveing and feeling indebted.

david hobbs

It all depends on the intention, but lack of intention indicates a person who is secure in their own skin.

Giving without thinking.

meiah

Hmmmm....yes I see the difference. I can't remember that last thing I consciously did without thinking.

david hobbs

meiah

Raymond

Random acts of kindness are good. Believe it or not I also like to perform random acts but I rarely do them for other people.

My random acts tend to be more for the world around me. Picking up litter from a wild place, leaving food or seeds for wildlife, making somewhere habitable for wild animals - I recently bought a load of straw bird houses and whenever I go for a walk I take one with me and leave it in a tree.
Some little bird will be glad of it.

david hobbs

Mind forms all

Thought is de valued because it needs us.

meiah

That feels very good.

Kindness doesn't have to be to people....does it?

Raymond

I have found that kindness to other people is often wasted. I'd much prefer to be kind to the world, inasmuch as one person can be.

meiah

I'd rather smile at a stranger and see them smile back before they have time to think about it

Raymond

Ahh,... there speaks a woman who obviously doesn't live in London.

david hobbs

Big cities are all the same.

De humanising and cold.

Then you meet people and realise that they are villagers really but the village is just to dammed big.

Raymond

Giving is a good thing.

That doormat you gave me Mr.Hobbs. Everybody who steps into my place is told it was given to me.
I never bring any of my visitors' attention to anything I have bought just the things I have been given.

Even a simple doormat.

It always raises a smile.

How strange we are.

david hobbs

I was thinking of producing doormats with a picture of Gordon Browns face on.

What a pleasure wiping your feet would become. Even if your shoes don't need a wipe

meiah

I don't know much about feng shui, but that MUST go against some sort of positive energy type of thing. Gordons Browns face as the first thing you see when you come in your house.....shudder

Raymond

Poor old Gordon. He does try his best.

This is what happens when people who aren't natural leaders are put in charge.

We only need to sit it out for about another year or so.

beantighe

Like the saying goes: a week is a long time in politics! (we can but hope)

david hobbs