Death

david hobbs · Death

If you found that there were no life after death and this is all there is how would it change your life.

Mel S

Hmmm .. very interesting question.
I think for me it would possibly make one difference ..I think I would fear death. Its the hope that there is something more after this life, or the hope of perhaps being reunited with loved ones that makes the thought of death bareable. Throughout our lives we have things that end..End of school, End of relationships,End of era's but its never the end of us.. there is always something else to go on to. Knowing for sure death would be the final chapter ?? Would it make me live my life any different? .. not sure on that one.

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Sceptic Tel

lol I'm with Kas on this one. I'd certainly have little interest in the afterlife and no doubt would cling to life ,as Mel said.

So I guess the hope of afterlife does affect the way we live, it gives us hope. My friend once told me:

"Ya know Tel the thing with the way I am leading my life for God is that if I've got it right I'm going to Heaven when I die and I won't regret anything that I have done for God. If I've got it wrong and I just die and rot in the ground then I would've still had a good life and still won't regret anything that I have done living for God. I can't lose."

That said if this was definitely it then perhaps I'd make the most of my time here, as I should be doing now....

david hobbs

Interesting stuff.

I wonder if we have really looked at the depth of our fears and what we would find out about ourselves if we did. For instance what is fear. How much do I carry about with me each day.

For me it would mean that I would have to face that fear.

Fear is the thing that stops me doing many things in life.

I do not mean illegal or nasty or selfish things although hands up I think about them.

In exploring my fear and especially the fear of death I may learn about fear.

In learning I may overcome. In overcoming I may just be set free.

Sceptic Tel

Feel the fear and do it anyway.

We only fear losing something be that our house or life if we had nothing we would fear nothing....apart from the unknown.

meiah

We do not know there is life after death.
It neither makes sense, or feels like there is nothing. Nothing is an absence of anything, so where does the something go?

I am not scared of death or dying, but the thought of pain or suffering does not fill me with joy.

In all honesty, if someone could prove that there was no life after death, that would raise so many questions that I could be distracted for quite some time :D

Yes, fear stops me doing things....but I try to recognise that and do something about it. Not always easy as fear cunningly disguises itself as other things.

For me, fear of the unknown is the most nonsensical one. And the one I come across most often in myself. Its the "what if's?". Its the one that pretends to be a fear of something sensible, until you look at it properly. Its also the most satisfying, as it leads directly to the "well, duh....(laugh at myself)" moment.

david hobbs

Just thinking.

Babies do not experience fear.

Is fear learned?

If so how?

Another thought.

At what age do we begin to experience fear?

billy nomates

yes .fear is a learned behaviour..........we all pick up things without even realising them.as children we are told.......dont do!!!!!!!!! an infinite amount of times..........then someone like a teacher imposes their beliefs and so it goes on...............all of this crap is stored and it is usually not even noticed by most people..............most go through their lives believing that they are A 'someone'........ie a big shot.....a doctor, a politician,a councillor......and yet they have NEVER had an original thought themselves............gurdjieff wrote some interesting stuff on it-he called it 'a world in trance'.

meiah

Fears
Lesia Oesterreich, M.S.
Family Life Extension Specialist
Human Development and Family Studies
Iowa State University

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To many parents, children's fears make no sense at all. Nevertheless, to children, monsters lurking in the dark or scary noises coming from the attic are quite real. Around your child's second birthday, he or she may become frightened by things that did not cause fear before-the neighbor's dog, the dark, the bathtub drain, and loud noises.

Several factors contribute to a child developing fears by age 2. Children between the ages of 2 and 6 have experienced real fear or pain from being lost, injured, or bitten. They also have vivid imaginations and struggle with the idea of cause and effect.

A toddler knows something about size and shape, but not enough to be sure that he or she won't be sucked down into the bathtub drain or into a flushing toilet. Older children also are aware of dangers that they hear about or see on TV. It's hard to know what is real and what is not.
FRom www.nncc.org/Parent/uc.fears.html

Toddlers normally have simple fears of separation, noises, falling, animals and insects, using the potty, bathing and bedtime.

Fears among preschool age children include simple fears of animals and insects, monsters and ghosts, getting lost, divorce, loss of a parent and bedtime.

School age children normally have simple fears of separation, noises, falling, new situations (especially starting school) and bedtime in younger children, and social rejection, war, new situations, and burglars in older children.

Adolescents normally have simple fears of burglars, new situations (going to college, etc), war, divorce, and sexual relations.

In children of all ages, fears may also increase during times of stress (new baby, moving, divorce, etc). They may also develop a fear after a triggering event, such as falling in the water, touching something hot, or being chased by a dog.

Some children are more fearful of things, even common things, than others and this is usually a function of his type of temperament. Also, children who have parents that are very anxious or fearful, or who tend to overreact to things, often have children who have the same reactions in similar situations.

From http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/parenting_tips/fears.html

evergreen

for me it would be change what I do for a living.... so while I was thinking well I wouldn't;' live just the same way then I have to say it would have a pretty big impact on me... maybe I would work just as a psychic I don't' know???? or maybe I would go back to being a teacher ??? or maybe there would be no psychics (I often wonder about that)

one thing for me is certain I grew up thinking there was no afterlife and I guess that I would continue like that.... just living as full a life as I can just like I do now

billy nomates

dave- prove to me that there is life after death please

david hobbs

david hobbs

meiah

billy nomates

asked by david hobbs"If you found that there were no life after death and this is all there is how would it change your life.?

i thought the original post from my golfing guru implied that there was life after death?

that's why i asked..........

ok?

meiah

Naturally

Sceptic Tel

david hobbs

stardust2

No summerland now thats a hard one.I have been very ill lately and as I was laid in a hospital bed I was thinking that if I go I will be passing into a better place so all the suffering and we all suffer from time to time that I had would have been worth it.But if I found out that there is no life after death then I think that life would be pointless.There would be no point to all the suffering and I would lose my will to live.

david hobbs

Suffering is not good but there must have been a lot of times when you didn't suffer.

Would it be worth giving those times up and not being born at all?

meiah

Does there have to be a point? Perhaps the experience is all?

I appreciate that suffering is not the most pleasant experience...but perhaps from that comes hope, or acceptance or determination, or any other host of things that are wonderful.

People are strange. we need a purpose, a reason. It seems to me that if it were proven that there were no life after death, we would find a reason for being here anyway.

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