david hobbs
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CloningAll I know about cloning is that I don't know much at all.
I do know that scientists are busy joining this thing to that thing to make a third thing and I do wonder whee it will all end.
I feel that they will one day build the "perfect human specimen" Will they then replicate that human being and fill the planet up with them.
If you can genetically produce people for purpose then why would leaders see a use for accidents such as us.
Do you see a world that is devoid of chance and everything produced to a so called perfect formula.
What do you see as the ultimate genetic achievement and the ultimate clone. Where are we all heading?
Utopia or hell?
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meiah
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Would the perfect human specimen want to do the range of jobs that need doing?
Hang on a sec though....what is a perfect human specimen? Our strengths are often in our differences, our imperfections.
Or are we talking "biologically" perfect?
I am sure we could naff that up given enough time and temptations...or would these perfect specimens live in a perfect envionment, seperate from the rest of us imperfections and our imperfect, but frustrating, fullfilling, wonderful lives?
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david hobbs
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The point is that perfection is in the eye of the beholder.
Some would want the perfect murderer and some the perfect mathematician, still others the perfect lover.
Can you imagine the new range of sex toys for instance a cloned stud.
The world is your Lobster when it comes to genetics and cloning but please god we do not have a another Hitler get his hands on it.
Incidentally the Nazi's were big on cloning techniques some of the experiments performed on fellow humans were horrific.
What would MI5 see as the perfect clone or genetically engineered agent.
Believe me if it isn't being done yet it will be at some point in the future.
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david hobbs
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Just thought about that.
It is being done now.
We have had brain washing now it is the turn of the genetic agent
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meiah
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And again...perfection de-humanises the creation, the tool for the job.
It may well happen, but how would we view these unfortunate, perfect creatures?
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evergreen
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everything is possible but I don't see this happening.... the frality of humanity makes it stronger...
we already clone in ways with /IVF and the like....
but I do not fear cloning.. maybe I have my head in the sand I just think the world has so many in it already .. and the focus in on assisting them that are here now...
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beantighe
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Another one of me?? I can just hear the thud as my hubby falls to the floor in a dead faint!!!
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Lilly
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What I want to know is; if they do manage to clone a human-- will that 'human' have a soul?
I would love to see the aura on such a creature,that is if it has one?
What about Dolly the sheep? whatever happed to her/it?
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Lilly
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I been cheeky and looked it up!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_the_sheep
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david hobbs
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I hadn't realised that so much cloning was going on.
I bet we only see the tip of the iceberg.
As for clones having souls well that's tricky.
Firstly I am not sure that souls actually exist.
I wonder if clones retain the memories of the donor.
How long before someone wants to bring Einstein or Mozart back to life.
The possibilities are endless.
If a person dies of cancer does the clone have cancer from "birth"?
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beantighe
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I believe a clone is only physically identical to its donor because they share identical DNA. I do think that, because of this, the clone will have the same pre-disposition to any medical conditions the donor has or had. However, the same cannot be said for the mind, in my opinion. It may seem silly to point out, but any clone is born as an infant. Its mind is a clean slate, waiting to be shaped by its life and its experiences, just the same as the rest of us. No clone could live an identical life to its predecessor, the same as none of us could lead a life identical to that of our parents. A clone might have the same innate talents as its donor, for example, being musical, but it might not channel that musical talent in the same direction. A clone might be a physical copy, but it surely must have its own mind. This is not a robot or an android either, by the way, but a real flesh and blood human being.
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david hobbs
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Identical twins come from the same egg I believe but they can have very different talents and personalities.
I wonder if the same applies to a clone.
Imagine the disappointment when Mozart's clone can't play a note and Einsteins clone can't add up a shopping list.
It would seem that the physical body does not have much to do with the mind.
I saw a program last night about conjoined male twins. Their temperaments and personalities were totally different.
Makes you wonder what the mind is.
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meiah
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How can two people be identical, when they both see things from a different place?
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david hobbs
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| meiah wrote: | | How can two people be identical, when they both see things from a different place? |
So even though they come from the same egg and have the same jeans and parents and experience things together the position of their line of sight decides on their personalities?
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david hobbs
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The real answer lies in the question at what age did they have these differences.
I bet the parents would say that they were always different.
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