rhian
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Chosen pathswhy do so many people think that we choose our lives paths before we are born?
I really would love to know weather thats true or not or what peoples opinions are.
I mean if you were given a choice to live a life where everything is so peaceful and no worries you would take it right?
rather than taken the path where its all dark and gloomy and every little bad thing happens to you , you wouldn't pick it right?
then i don't understand why people believe we choose our paths or if that was the case we all be living in peace and have exactly same lives.
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Kas
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And i'd have a foot long he hem. 
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Raymond
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Re: choosen pathes | rhian wrote: | | I mean if you were given a choice to live a life where everything is so peaceful and no worries you would take it right? |
All this depends on whether or not you accept the concept of reincarnation.
Quite frankly I don't see how anybody could not believe in reincarnation - but there you go.
We come back to the earth plane over and over again to experience the human condition.
We have to expericence and learn everything a human being can possibly experience and learn in order to move onto the next stage which are the various spiritual levels.
A spirits task is to become pure. Divine. And the only way to do that is to do everything - even cock things up big time - because it's the only way to learn.
It's easy to say you would want an easy life with no worries all the time but what would you learn from that?
You'd just keep coming back over and over again doing the same old stuff.
Before each life begins you are reminded of the things you have left to experience and you choose the things (both good and bad) that you would like to experience in the coming life.
Now.....
Let the stupid questions begin.
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david hobbs
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| Kas wrote: | | And i'd have a foot long he hem. |
You right mate. The one you have now is far to long.
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david hobbs
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I think that you make your life decisions every second of the day, not before you are born.
Choosing before you are born is just an escape clause for people wondering why their lives are so shitty.
I choose this life to learn what a shitty life is like and what I could learn. Yeah right.
The time to worry about your life is while you are living it because that is all you have for certain.
And believe with all of your heart in life after death, and reincarnation because if there is non it really doesn't matter.
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Mel S
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I think we choose our own paths in life. We can be guided by our parents or our peers to follow a certain path.
But in the end.... life is what YOU make it, nobody else.
I dont believe there is a plan already layed out for us...what is the point in living a predetermined life?
Someone once suggested to me that we were put on this earth as some kind of elaborate experiment. To see how we evolved, interacted, grew
..and generally sodded things up !! hahaha
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Raymond
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Alright, maybe not silly questions. Just silly statements.
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meiah
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Raymond - on one level, I can' help agreeing with you....if we do actually set ourselves goals in terms of experience before we are born. It strikes me that many of the emotions we feel are because of our physicality, and so the only way to understand / empathise with a viewpoint based on emotions is to be physical in order to experience that.
So...taking that theory as accepted (for now), do we die when we have achieved our goal?
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Raymond
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Well it would explain why a lot of people die young, but I don't think it's a absolute that once you've achieved your mission you're going to drop dead the next day.
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meiah
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No....or else why would we bother? To me, that a potential flaw in the theory.
I ask myself, why would spirit want to experience life from a human physical point of view?
My thinking is that when you ar part of everything, you do not see yourself, you look outside, but there is no outside because everything you are is everything.
and so, in order to understand yourself, you must create the illusion of being seperate...hence physicality, a false sense of seperate created by a physical form which has a beginning and an end.
This creates in effect a mirror, from which you can see all that you do not consider to be yourself.
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david hobbs
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And the flaw in that argument is that if you are everything that is surely
what you would see. Not just a fragment called me.
Everythings vision would be on a level that we cannot comprehend but it
would surely be all seeing and in no need of dallying with minor details.
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meiah
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Not if the illusion of being seperate is total.
ask yourself, why do we work to see beyond ourselves? Why do we meditate? Why when we step away from our self, do we have flashes of inspiration, insight, a view of so much more.
What do magic users work with?
What is this "energy healing"?
If all is mind, what are we?
Why do we see our "self" as something other than mind?
What do we see when we connect with mind?
If all is mind.....what do you see when you see you? Do you see everything? Why not?
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david hobbs
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| meiah wrote: | Not if the illusion of being separate is total.
ask yourself, why do we work to see beyond ourselves? Why do we meditate? Why when we step away from our self, do we have flashes of inspiration, insight, a view of so much more.
What do magic users work with?
What is this "energy healing"?
If all is mind, what are we?
Why do we see our "self" as something other than mind?
What do we see when we connect with mind?
If all is mind.....what do you see when you see you? Do you see everything? Why not? |
The illusion of being separate is total.
Workers of Majik and anything else work with belief and belief is a product of the mind and nothing else.
If all is mind i liken us to a cell in a body. We feel that we are separate but in fact we know there is more to us.
In moments of insight we connect to the whole body or being.
Perhaps our consciousness if just a reflection of the consciousness of the whole, the one.
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meiah
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Then we agree....got to run...... 
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david hobbs
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Your only agreeing because you have run out of time.
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Raymond
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Oh..., they're off.
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david hobbs
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Gooseberry!!!!!
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meiah
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| david hobbs wrote: | | Your only agreeing because you have run out of time. |
partly, and partly because I wanted to have the last word 
having had a ponder, it seems to me that workers of majik, energy workers etc don't always work with belief. It starts with experience.
If you tried, and tried with no results, then you would become disheartened. When you experience results, then a belief can form. With more experience, it can become something that you "know" integrally, it becomes a part of who you are and how you view the world.
It doesn't make it right though, but it does colour how you view everything else.
Thing is, when you know something, it reinforces the self...."I know this"...and so reinforces further the self illusion.
Off to ponder that a bit more (really to make a lasagne and await the thought that is hovering just where I am not reaching it)
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