david hobbs
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ASSAP BlogAre mediums necessary in ghost research?
Quote from Assap Blog follows
While this might affect people going for a commercial reading with a psychic, it seems unlikely to make much difference to paranormal research. Ghost research, for instance, does not require the presence of mediums and never did. Indeed, taking along mediums on vigils tends to end up in assumption-led research which is unlikely to produce any worthwhile scientific data. unquote
So there you are you psychics and mediums, redundant.
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meiah
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How odd that just because science cannot capture what a psychic can, therefore the psychic is making assumptions rather than experiencing something for which we do not yet have instrument to measure it.
Ho hum
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evergreen
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we may find that the scientist is a skeptic about psychics and wants to prove or disprove ghosts and paranormal things.. therefore yes a psychic/medium is probably not good/needed in that circumstance
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Kas
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| evergreen wrote: | | we may find that the scientist is a skeptic about psychics |
I wouldn't say that but any information gleaned from a psychic can not be used as scientific evidence. Assap are purely scientific research based. Regardless of the individual members views or beliefs. He maybe could be labelled a skeptic but not in the same text as BG. A true skeptic is someone who in my view is someone in the middle. There logical minded but also open minded and will research the evidence rather than just blatently disbeleive it. The chaps name is Maurice Townsend. Have a read of his blog page, there's many interesting subjects there. He doesen't just make opinions without researching the topics.
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david hobbs
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You don't need psychics to investigate ghosts.
Psychics don't need scientists to investigate the world that they occupy and their perception of that world.
Nothing wrong with either viewpoint.
How could a scientist work with something that cannot be weighed or measured, it cannot be done scientifically.
I know a "sensitive" scientist, and he seems happy with both points of view.
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Kas
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At the end of the day, if the "sceptics" totally disbelieved, why would they be part of the paranormal community and spend so much time talking about the subject? They have a common interest the same as all of us.
Just depends what team you support or are influenced by.
Yes?
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david hobbs
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| Kas wrote: | At the end of the day, if the "sceptics" totally disbelieved, why would they be part of the paranormal community and spend so much time talking about the subject? They have a common interest the same as all of us.
Just depends what team you support or are influenced by.
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I think that many both sceptic and psychic are stuck in their mindsets.
Once you believe you are lost.
The trick is to try to look beyond the obvious.
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Raymond
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Of course you don't need a psychic or medium to investigate the paranormal, no more than you need an EMF meter or a night vision camera.
The trap that 99% of 'paranormal investigators' have fallen into is they believe they have to share thier "proof" with the rest of the world in order for it to have validity. The only one an investigator should be concentrating on is themselves.
Why should it matter making everyone else believe you? Find your own proof.
A Medium is just a tool. Many crime detectives use Mediums in murder cases or missing persons cases, and from what I know those cases are sometimes solved solely on the information provided by the psychic, however many other cases are solved just as efficiently without employing the talents of a Medium.
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meiah
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I agree. Was talking to a chap at the weekend who was frustrated because he had never seen any proof of the paranormal, and yet it fitted his belief system.
He finds himself easily swayed by sceptics.
I asked him why did he believe. he said he was not sure.
I asked what would he consider to be proof. He said he was not sure.
I asked why does he feel the need to have it validated by someone else. He said he was not sure.
I asked what was he sure of. He looked at me like I had two heads.
I asked him to tell me how he could find proof if he didn't know what he believed, what he was looking for, why he was looking for it, and how he could explain it to himself.
He went and got a coffee.
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Kas
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| meiah wrote: | I agree. Was talking to a chap at the weekend who was frustrated because he had never seen any proof of the paranormal, and yet it fitted his belief system.
He finds himself easily swayed by sceptics.
I asked him why did he believe. he said he was not sure.
I asked what woudl he consider to be proof. He said he was not sure.
I asked why does he feel the nee dto have it validated by someone else. He said he was not sure.
I asked what was he sure of. He looked at me like I had two heads.
I asked him to tell me how he could find proof if he didn't knwo what he beleived, what he was looking for, why he was looking for it, and how he could explain it to himself.
He went and got a coffee. |
lol
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