11th thread

david hobbs · 11th thread

11th Thread: I treat others exactly as I wish to be treated.

Scott

what is this? what is the quickening please david?

Raymond

That's Hobbs' world Scott.

We've been trying to figure it out for years.

david hobbs

It's not my word at all but from another person who has taught me a lot about the nature of so called reality.

The quickening is about understanding how we the conscious mind take on any old garbage and hold it up as truth even to the point of believing that we are a witch or a majician or a psychic. We build an illusionary world all around us.

In essence it is about shedding the garbage and finding the core, the source of what we are and not the illusion that we buy into.

Something like that anyway.

Raymond

Touche!

evergreen

treating others how you want to be treated is importatnt

BUT for me more important is

I am treated is a reflection of how I am treating myself..

Raymond

Yes.

That's why the "11th thread" is a bit of a nonsense in my opinion.

You only ever get treated by how you allow others to treat you. Ultimately that depends on how you treat yourself.

Scott

david hobbs

No it is a series of things to meditate on

As with all of these things the obvious answers are usually the wrong answers.

Evergreen had it right.

It is about how you treat yourself.

Treating others exactly as you wish to be treated makes you in control.

Others may act as they wish but that should not make you buy into their way of being.

I have found in life that treating others well always works.

Not because everyone responds likewise but because you know that you did your best.

I have behaved very badly very often but I try not to now.

Scott

i try not to behave badly. but i admit sometimes i dont manage it

david hobbs

Then you are a perfectly normal human being.

Scott

lolo. thanks david. i know plenty of people who would disagree with you

Raymond

Would either or both of you please define what you would call "behaving badly" please?

david hobbs

Yes

Acting thoughtlessly for one.

Being bad mannered for another.

Raymond

Ok. I'd go with that.

Scott, your turn.

Scott

well i suppose it has to do with being horrible to other people or hurting other people. i try to be polite and well mannered whenver i can but sometimes when people are being so rude to me it is very difficult to do that. i try to do good things for people when i can also.

Raymond

We've had this conversation on here again and again. What you have to remember Scott is what you may consider "bad", someone else may consider "good". It's all relative.

For example, many people think it's 'bad' or wrong to be rude and sarcastic but if I'm not rude or sarcatic it actually makes me feel ill.
I'm not joking with this. If I force 'niceness' for too long it really affects me in a negative way.
I enjoy being rude. I like being sarcastic. It makes me feel good.
So by being "good" to other people I'm actually being "bad" to myself.

Also you have to consider what you term 'good and bad' by your own standards and by the standards you have taught.

Scott

yes i suppose it has a lot to do with what i've been taught is right and wrong but i think i just like to be nice whenever i can. i want other people to show me respect and manners so it just seems common sense to show it back

evergreen

thumbs up Scott...

Raymond

What a load of bollocks.

meiah

I prefer to be honest. Good or bad don't really come into it. I may choose not to say whats on my mind because it may upset people, but, if asked, I will be honest.

david hobbs

Ask a devout Christian if there is a God and they will answer YES with total honesty.

Ask an atheiast and they will give an honest NO

So honesty is not truth,just an opinion.

So what value honesty?

Raymond, if I felt ill by being polite I would have to ask myself the reason why,apart from the obvious need to keep others at arms length.

Scott

fair comment

meiah

What value honesty?

If honesty is being true to yourself rather than being what someone else thinks you should be, then honesty is about knowing yourself.
To me, that is what most of these threads are about.

So to treat others as you WISH to be treated yourself.....does that mena to treat others as you WISH you treat yourself, or as you WISH others to treat you?
Answering taht can be an eye opener