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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: This section Reply with quote

I may be unleashing a demon here, but let's talk about our likes, and dislikes, or anything else come to that.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject: Do we Reply with quote

I would like to ask this question.

Why don't we like being told what to do most of the time.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because we have free will
and we also are (sometimes)selfish
we get stuck in a rut,programmed one way or tother to survive
and to be"safe"
so our time(a earth thing)restricts us  
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only don't like being told to do what I know i ought to do but have chosen not to do, thus I don't like being told to live my life by someone elses (and my) values, if I chose that those values are not right for me.
(or else I am just lazy!!)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because we don't like the idea that somebody else may actually know what is better for us.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can someone else decide what is better for me?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How can someone else decide what is better for me?


Ask a doctor or a dentist.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because we are supposed to be independant entities.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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because we are supposed to be independant entities.


'Every man and every woman is a star'

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Who say's we are supposed to be independent entities.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How can someone else decide what is better for me?


Of course they can. Some people are just incredibly wise and have insights into things that most of us will never see.
Some people can quite easily see the bigger picture of a situation where we are just homing in on a small part of it.
Some people are just so unbelievably insightful they are worth thier weight in gold.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How can someone else decide what is better for me?


Of course they can. Some people are just incredibly wise and have insights into things that most of us will never see.
Some people can quite easily see the bigger picture of a situation where we are just homing in on a small part of it.
Some people are just so unbelievably insightful they are worth thier weight in gold.


I do not dispute that. In sharing their insight, they can provid more info, help me to make a more informed decision. But can they say what is best for me?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oi 'obbs!

we are supposed to be different ....thats the beauty of creation......

otherwise we would all look the same.like sheep.....
oh dear.we are sheep! ruined my own argument!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I do not dispute that. In sharing their insight, they can provid more info, help me to make a more informed decision. But can they say what is best for me?


I think it's probably more of an individual thing. Maybe you've got all your stuff together and you don't need to be told what to do.
Maybe you're one of life's 'leaders' who knows exactly what you're doing and where you're going, but there are an incredible amount of people who really can't run thier own lives.
Some people really do need the help of others to get through life.
I do think that some people are natural 'wise ones' and yes - they instincively know what is best for all of us.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, I agree.

The thing is, often we learn from our mistakes, if we are looking clearly.

Yes, often another can see clearly what is best for us, but without knowing the lesson we are learning, doing what is best may mean the lesson is unlearned, the opportunity for improvement wasted.

We don't always need someone who tells us what is right, rather we need someone who can help us pick ourselves up again once we have made the mistake we chose to make.
Sometimes guidance means knowing when to stand back, rather than when to offer advice.

The point I was making is that no-one apart from us can really know what is best for us, without knowing the direction we are taking.

I have just come through a period of ambition, and of achieving a goal that I didn't want. By many people standards, what I was working towards was the best thing, however, for me it meant compromising the path I had chosen to take, which is one of happiness rather than of monetary success. I do tend to find happiness where I look for it, but in this case, I just relearned what is actually important to me.
Those who know me well, stood back and let me make that mistake, and were there to hug me when I achieved what I didn't want, realised my error, and had to find the strength to say "thankyou, but no" to those who gave me what I didn't need or want.


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