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The case of the curse part two

 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: The case of the curse part two Reply with quote

Last night Anne and I visited the New premises that our two Iranian doctors have purchased to begin their new practise.

They have spent fortunes on refurbishing and equipping it with everything that was needed.  On our last visit at their house we seemed to think it a good idea to go to the new premises and "get a feel for it".

All was well apart from one room where Anne became aware of an elderly gentleman lying on a settee who it seemed was stuck here on the earth plane. but the question was why.

I began to tune in to the old man and asked him why he was still here.  I saw a scene which I can only describe as his version of hell.  It seemed that he would not go to join his wife because he felt that he was going to go to hell for some misdemeanour when he was on the earth plane.

We asked the two doctors about the history of the place which was once a private bungalow and they explained that the previous owners had both died of cancer, him first and then his wife.

Anne asked if the room we were in was the bedroom and we were told that it was never a bedroom which puzzled us a little.  The doctors then told us that another doctor friend of theirs had visited the house when the man was dying and again recently to see how they were getting on, and he had told them that as he came into the bungalow the old man was in the first room on the left.  The very room that we were in.  he was there because it was more convenient than having him in the bedroom.

I mentally assured the old man that he would not go to hell and that if he wished and only if he wished I would travel part of the way with him.  He was still afraid because the vision of his hell was still there so I mentally placed a barrier between him and it., and this did the trick.  I have never wandered into the "light": before and I was surprised to see that when we went in he suddenly became a kind of silvery shimmering shape that rapidly rose and then vanished.  I came back out and so that it seems is the end of this case.

I often wonder if what I see and do is the product of an over active imagination but there is always some kind of evidence no matter how small.

Anne who had been watching the whole thing from begging to end asked me why the old man had begun to sink into the ground when I began the work.  "  That was his mind telling him that he was going to hell but I helped him in the opposite direction.  Anne said she had never seen that before and was quite amused by the whole thing.

Conclusion..... if Anne had not been there then I would have doubted myself as I do after most cases what ever shade they are.  when you return to the normal world .  Also it would seem that the mind is just as powerful and the beliefs within that mind even after death.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope he found his wife, and that she has forgiven him any transgressions he had.

Was this related to the curse?  Or a side issue?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: The case of the curse part two Reply with quote

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Conclusion..... if Anne had not been there then I would have doubted myself as I do after most cases what ever shade they are.  when you return to the normal world .  Also it would seem that the mind is just as powerful and the beliefs within that mind even after death.


Firstly I would like to say that I have seen this a lot in the past. Spirit deliberatly remains behind because of their perceived ideas that they are going to hell as a result of some "sin" while on the earth.

Secondly, I find it quite astonishing while male mediums (and it usually always is male mediums) need the back up of female mediums in their work.

A male medium is just as capable as a female medium. I personally know of a highly talented male medium who used to wirk with his wife. Sadly, his wife divorced him so he gave up mediumship completely. Then he got in with a another lady who was also a medium and he found mediumship again, unfortunaltely she died - so he gave it all up again.

I know of many other male mediums who, for some reason need the back up of a female medium in their work.

I don't know why but I find it fascinating, and one day when I have the time I will try and figure out why that's the case.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for dave and anne..........is it a curse or a blessing for you to be able to see spirits/entities?

are there things you would rather have not seen or experienced?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bravo wrote:
I hope he found his wife, and that she has forgiven him any transgressions he had.

Was this related to the curse?  Or a side issue?


I often wonder Bravo if there is any such thing as a side issue.
We make a journey from point A to point B prompted by some event in life.  That event may be a chance meeting or an inner desire or any of a number of things.  Along the way things happen unexpectedly, but at the end of the journey we come to realise that everything was connected.



Anyway it's early and I'm rambling.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: The case of the curse part two Reply with quote

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Conclusion..... if Anne had not been there then I would have doubted myself as I do after most cases what ever shade they are.  when you return to the normal world .  Also it would seem that the mind is just as powerful and the beliefs within that mind even after death.


Firstly I would like to say that I have seen this a lot in the past. Spirit deliberatly remains behind because of their perceived ideas that they are going to hell as a result of some "sin" while on the earth.

Secondly, I find it quite astonishing while male mediums (and it usually always is male mediums) need the back up of female mediums in their work.

A male medium is just as capable as a female medium. I personally know of a highly talented male medium who used to wirk with his wife. Sadly, his wife divorced him so he gave up mediumship completely. Then he got in with a another lady who was also a medium and he found mediumship again, unfortunaltely she died - so he gave it all up again.

I know of many other male mediums who, for some reason need the back up of a female medium in their work.

I don't know why but I find it fascinating, and one day when I have the time I will try and figure out why that's the case.


It stems from my days working priest, priestess, with a lady caled Jean.

My teacher said that in order to work properly I must have a female partner.  For his way of working it was valid but I now realise that you do not need anyone.

I do go on, and have been on lots of cases on my own and I have realised that I see perfectly well but I guess old habits die hard.  I have sort of convinced myself that I do not see well.

Also working with Anne is a pleasure as we are friends and we get on well together.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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for dave and anne..........is it a curse or a blessing for you to be able to see spirits/entities?

are there things you would rather have not seen or experienced?


It's a bit like saying is it a blessing or a curse to be born with an extra pair of hands.

If I viewed my life in the light of curses or blessings I would I think find that many of the curses were learning aids, and the blessings where the tools to cope with and undersand the curses.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a blessing or a curse ? mmm !  Well I must admit that for some years I would get mixed up with spirit and the living. Apart from the fact that their feet would either be above the ground or under the ground [I guess the terain was a different height or depth] then I realised that spirit had a FAINT haze around them. Im sure Dave has experienced me pulling on the handbrake in the car, for I am quite certain Dave is going to run the "spirit" [ which I see as a person ] over. Now however I tend to put what I call my brick wall around me. I take the brick wall down only when I want to. This works for me otherwise I probably would be quite quite mad. Dave hints that I am anyway. No of course Dave doesnt need me he is very very capable. Dont tell him that though, as I enjoy our trips across the countryside getting into our ever fascinating adventures.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anne i see how you and david are good freinds and this is a strong bond you do work very well together,i personally think that if some who havent seen you work  get the chance one day they will possibly be plesently suprised,one word that comes to mind when id try to sum you both up  is HONEST
this is rare
people generally into this paranormal  investigation  "scene" can at times seem to add things on and get hyped up,creating..........oh well you no
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is that if you are not picking anything up then you say so.

I think that some people believe that they should pick up on every occasion.

If you know your limits then you know what you are doing.

It only takes one person to be conservative with the truth and the whole group is out of kilter.

Sometimes people don't like honesty, but that as they say is their problem.



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