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Queen Elizabeth I - Witch Queen Of England?

 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Queen Elizabeth I - Witch Queen Of England? Reply with quote

When anyone mentions Witchcraft most people immediately think of some wizened old crone living in a run down cottage in the middle of the woods somewhere, but the truth is usually very different.

A closer study will reveal that Witchcraft was (and probably still is) practiced by many Men and Women of the aristocracy and upper classes and has always reached the very top echelons of society.

One such story is that of Queen Elizabeth I of England. She was (and still is) revered as one of England's greatest Monarchs, and rightly so, but there are aspects of her life that seem to pose something of a conundrum.
The most puzzling of these is how she managed to survive to rule for as long as she did.

Elizabeth's reign is marked by drama, intrigue and plots against her. In 1569 a rebellion in the north of England by feudal aristocrats had to be put down by military force. In 1570 Pope Pius V excommunicated her from the church.
Jesuits were trained in Europe and sent to England to inspire plots and assassination attempts. Then in 1571 an international conspiracy against her known as the Ridolfi plot was uncovered.

Throughout all of this Elizabeth strongly maintained her dislike of evangelical fervour and continually argued that an individual's private beliefs should remain private.

These plots continued until she was forced to suspend the Archbishop of Canterbury, Edmund Grindal, for refusing to implement her order to suppress the extremist reformists.

Dismayed at what was happening in England, Pope Gregory XIII declared in 1580 that 'no action taken by any person would be considered too extreme to rid the world of such a heretic'. This was seen as the Pope giving his blessing for any assassination that might be attempted.

Plots to kill Elizabeth and to invade England were rife and in 1586 Sir Francis Walsingham was credited with uncovering the Babington conspiracy to kill the Queen, but Elizabeth remained confident and seemingly fearless in the face of such danger.

Her advisors privately mocked at Elizabeth's claims that she has knowledge of an invasion by France and Spain.
Then in 1588 the seemingly invincible Spanish Armada set sail. It was as if Elizabeth had some foresight of this invasion that nobody else could see coming.

History tells the story of England's fleet led by Sir Francis Drake and it is told as if it were some great naval victory. Not to take anything away from Drake's exploits but the Spanish Armada had more ships and was considerably more powerful.

The prevailing wind then forced the enemy fleet to take a circuitous route around Scotland on it's way back to Spain.

That is the accepted history. Now we come to some lesser known aspects of Elizabeth's reign.

Many would say that to suggest Queen Elizabeth was herself a Witch an absurdity as it was she who introduced the Witchcraft Act of 1563. However, this act was introduced after a group of dissatisfied noblemen were discovered making a waxen image of the Queen to cast a curse against her.
Under pressure from advisors, the court and the church, Elizabeth had to act.

Thousands of old women were regularly hauled before the magistrates on the flimsiest of evidence. However, under Elizabeth's act those simply accused of witchcraft would commonly be sentenced to spend some time in the stocks.
It wasn't until the replacement act was introduced by King James in 1604 that harsher penalties returned.

Delving more deeply we discover that Queen Elizabeth employed Dr. John Dee as her astrological advisor. It was well known that the Queen took Dee's advice on almost all matters.
Dee was a great mathematical scholar and occultist.

He is credited with the development of what is called 'Western Esoteric Tradition' which is the synthesis of European astrology, ritual magic, alchemy and the combination of many other techniques of practical occultism.

John Dee was born on July 13th 1527 at Mortlake, then a country village but now a suburb of London.

During the reign of Queen Mary, also known as Bloody Mary, the then Princess Elizabeth was held a virtual prisoner.
During this time she was in continuous correspondence with Dee and informers revealed that he provided Princess Elizabeth with Queen Mary's horoscope.
While Dee was a proclaimed occultist, the information contained in Mary's horoscope would only be of use to Elizabeth if she knew the craft and how to use it.
The discovery that Dee had passed on in this information led to his arrest on suspicion that he was plotting with Elizabeth to kill Mary using witchcraft.
Mary died in 1558 and immediately Elizabeth freed Dee and appointed him her spiritual advisor.

John Dee was, by any standards, a famous practitioner of anything that can be described as 'occult'. He has been described as a Wizard on par with Merlin.

The question on just how far Queen Elizabeth was involved with these activities remains subject to debate. There have always been denials but her lack of fear in the face of all the plots against her could be seen as an insight into future events.

Of course she used spies to protect herself but surely these plotters would have expected that. Even today's security services struggle to uncover the goings on of modern terrorists and their failures regularly appear on the news.

The Catholics wanted Elizabeth dead, so did the Protestants. The aristocracy of England wanted her out of the way and even the Pope openly gave his blessing to her death. Yet, somehow, Elizabeth always seemed to stay one step ahead of all of them all.

It has to be pointed out that one of the major contributing factors that helped Drake defeat the Armada was a storm that raged over the area south of the English channel.
This storm and it's winds were described "particularly severe" , "wholly un-seasonable" and "un-naturally long lasting".
This storm whipped up just as Drake reached safety and drove the Spanish ships up the channel directly into the path of the treacherous Scottish rocks.
The storm continued as they tried to escape down the east coast with Spanish ships being wrecked on the coast of Ireland and even as far down as the West Country.

Not only was John Dee a powerful occultist he was also well known for his ability to work magick on the weather.
The charge is that along with his witch Queen Elizabeth, John Dee and the royal coven raised the storm that defeated the Armada.
The word 'coven' is appropriate because Elizabeth had her inner circle of special advisors and raising and maintaining such as storm would almost certainly require the power of a group.

The fact that Elizabeth was a close confidant of John Dee from before the time she imprisoned Bloody Mary and a long list of highly questionable events, leads to the reasonable judgement that maybe, just maybe, Queen Elizabeth I was in fact the Witch Queen of England.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This sounds very much like a Catholic anti Elizabeth campaign.
Detractors of her mother said she was a witch, just because she was sexodactyl.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe their claims weren't so wide of the mark.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe she was just very smart.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raymond wrote:
Maybe their claims weren't so wide of the mark.


didn't think you were in to conspiracy theories lol

interesting read

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes its fascinating..  where the hell do you get all this stuff from ?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

matt wrote:
didn't think you were in to conspiracy theories



I'm not. Where's the conspiracy???

EG - just here and there.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course the people at the top arestill doing magic........
ever heard of bohemian grove???????

anyway if anyone is interested there are some john dee artefacts in the british museum...........

http://www.britishmuseum.org/expl...ects/pe_mla/d/dr_dees_mirror.aspx

might go and have a peek when i go up to london on 5th november.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've promised myself for years to visit the British Museum to see his stuff. Apparently they have his black scrying mirror in there.
I'd love to get my hands on that.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all you need is a brick and some running shoes!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. I'll meet you there on the 5th. You keep them talking and I'll do the job.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elizabeths mother was anne boleyn, whose sixth finger and moley neck was sureley the sign  
Boleyn castle is depicted with three towers, columns alike solomons masonic temple.
Elizabeth declared these sacred isles and its inhabitants, British, which means , of the covenant of Israel.
Boleyn and Elizabeth were Qabbalists, if I were to shoehorn facts together and give it some Icke treatment. Big Grin
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi sam- can you explain what british has to do with israel?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Israel is regarded more a state for the kingdom of God on EArth. Not so much a literal state. British meaning Covenant of Israel suggests Elizabeth declared this quaint isle to be such a palce as evoked by Blakes Jerusalem et al.



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