Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: A glimmer of common sense.
Finally, there seems to be a glimmer of common sense in the politically correct fog we've allowed ourselves to walk into.
This is from The London Paper (19/10/09):
A London council has been forced to re-think it's policy of making schools close for annual Muslim, Hindu and Sikh holy days following a backlash from teachers and parents.
All state schools under Waltham Forest's control have closed every year for Eid-Ul-Fitr, Diwali and Guru Nanak's birthday as well as the traditional CHristmas and Easter holidays for the past 10 years.
The directive, which affects schools even where there are few or no Muslims, Hindus or Sikhs, means parents have to arrange up to three extra days of childcare per year.
The council began it's review after critics called the closures innappropriate and unnecessary, and head teachers demanded discretion in deciding which holy days to mark.
Jews outnumber Sikhs in the borough yet schools do not close for any Jewish festivals.
Lynette Parvez, headmistress of Kelmscott School in Walthamstow, said: "For a school like ours where the majority of pupils are either Christian or Muslim, there seems little point in losing two term days every year to observe Diwali and Guru Nanak."
Sanila Sikander, 37, a muslim from Walthamstow whose son Sami, six, attends Woodford Green Primary School said: "If you celebrate a particular festival then by all means take your child out of school for the day, but it's just silly for all children to be off for all festivals".
Mrs. Tracey Lincott, 34, whose daughter Rebecca, seven, also attends the school said: "Why should my child lose three days of education a year just to celebrate other religions festivals? At the end of the day this is still a christian country and if people want to move here from abroad they shouldn't force their beliefs onto us and our children".
Well i hated every minute of school life and I would have changed religion twice a week if I thought it would give me an extra day off.
I suppose it's inconvenient for mummy to have to miss out on a days wages or her trip to the gym three times a year but that's tough titty as far as I am concerned.
i dont think it's right for kids to miss school for religious days that aren't part of their religion either. but then what about christmas and easter? i suppose it could be argued why should muslim kids and other religons kids miss days for christian holidays?
but then what about christmas and easter? i suppose it could be argued why should muslim kids and other religons kids miss days for christian holidays?
Because in Britain, things like Christmas and Easter aren't just religious holidays they are also national holidays.
A time when as a nation we all have a rest and spend time with loved ones.
I don't have a problem with other people celebrating their holy days - I celebrate pagan holy days (and we get 8 in a year) but I don't expect non-pagans to celebrate them as well and I certainly don't expect any special treatment.
I'm having to work on Samhain this year (which for me is the most important festival of the lot) but I don't mind because I'll be doing my celebrations beforehand.
Like the woman in the article said, this is a Christian country and we rest on Christian holy days. People of other faiths chose to come here, so they should fit in around us or clear off.
i dont think it's right for kids to miss school for religious days that aren't part of their religion either. but then what about christmas and easter? i suppose it could be argued why should muslim kids and other religons kids miss days for christian holidays?
its the holidays that have been celebrated in your country for years.. thats is why they are holidays...
my children do not practice religion but we do celebrate these holidays as part of our tradition... I'm not about to add Muslim holidays and traditions or Jewish holidays and traditions ..
When i was a child Good Friday had everything closed shops petrol stations pubs the works.. now that is no longer the case and due to the fact that there are so many other religions in Australia no other reason.. now that is fine... there have been changes and there may well be more changes but overal our society is know as one that follows christian traditions.. at this time so the holiday shall stay I think one day there holidays will be there but the names shall be different _________________ as a babe drinks from its mothers breast so too does man milk mother earth
yeah that's fair enough. i dont think we have ever celebrated christmas or easter as religious holidays in our family. they are always a time for us to be together and have a rest. in fact i almost dont view either christmas or easter as religious events
'Old' middle class people held dear traditional values and customs, 'new' middle class people spend a lot of time thinking up ways of what they think is better for other people and setting up committees.
what defines class? ive never managed to work it out. is it money? where you live? how you speak? my mum always says she's middle class but my dad says he's working class so what does that make me? how can you tell?
It has nothing to do with money, or where you live or what car you drive or what clothes you wear or even what accent you speak with.
It's all to do with outlook and attitude.
It doesn't how much money you give to a scummy, chavvy scroat, they will always be a scummy, chavvy scroat.
Look at that gimp who won the lottery a few years back. He spent the whole lot on cheap gold jewellwry and expensive cars just to smash up.
He was born a scum-bag and will always be a scum-bag. In fact, true scummers get more scummy the more money they get.
That's why parts of Essex is in the state it's in.
Scummy eastenders came into a bit of cash and moved to Essex but instead of the decent people that were already living there raising the scum-bags up to their standard the scum-bags dragged the decent people down to their level.
It has nothing to do with money, or where you live or what car you drive or what clothes you wear or even what accent you speak with.
Look at that gimp who won the lottery a few years back. He spent the whole lot on cheap gold jewellwry and expensive cars just to smash up.
So what clothes you wear, jewellery and so on, matters too ;)
Not to mention how we speak. _________________ Magic Is. That’s all, it just is. We don’t have to create it, we simply have to find it. But where do we look? Within, first, last and always; look within.
It has nothing to do with money, or where you live or what car you drive or what clothes you wear or even what accent you speak with.
Look at that gimp who won the lottery a few years back. He spent the whole lot on cheap gold jewellwry and expensive cars just to smash up.
So what clothes you wear, jewellery and so on, matters too ;)
Not to mention how we speak.
But anyway 'middle class' doesn't define 'class', as refinement, but 'middle class' refers also to your income. These are two distinct matters.
_________________ Magic Is. That’s all, it just is. We don’t have to create it, we simply have to find it. But where do we look? Within, first, last and always; look within.
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